By: theacefes

NALIA

Everyone knows that Nalia was one of the most underepresented characters in BG2. Well, I obviously want to change that.

Goals:

To make Nalia realize that she shouldnt be ashamed of being a noble, and that she can use her power to do good things, rather than throwing money at ppl.

To help her see that not all poor are poor for reasons they couldn't have helped.

Possibly a kidnapping/situation by an "unfortunate" person, scaring the crap out of her and making her wonder where her ideals stand...PC friendship track...helping her out...etc. 


DISCUSSION THREAD:

Kae:

Yay! Nalia big grin

Umm.. I have nothing to add to this thread other than that big grin

But yeah. Nalia is DEFINATELY underrepresented - she may be a bit of a naive brat at times, but her heart is in the right place. She just needs to learn that there are other ways to help people.

Never played with her in ToB BECAUSE of the Badass Attitude(TM) she gets. Couldn't stand it. Razz I don't think anyone was impressed with that, and I think it could definately use improvement. smile



Tameon:

If it were up to me, her ToB dialogue would be completely rewritten. I hated it. However, I don't think most of the BG-Purists would like us doing that.

Perhaps some dialogue foreshadowing her change into Badassdome? It just kind of happens all of a sudden, without warning.

SoA Nalia: "I love the poor! For great justice!" *Nalia uses skill: Throw Gil*

ToB Nalia: "I'm an Archmage now! I'm better than you, and that's a fact!"

/popculturereference




Kae:

Well, who cares about the BG-Purists?! XD

How about we make it a seperate subcomponent - altering some of the epilogues smile Because some of them really need work - Minsc's and Nalia's, definately.



theacefes:

hehe I can just see it on WeiDU.



Install Component: Replace Bad-Ass Nalia? [Y]es [No]



Moongaze:

Don't know if this is in the original game, but...
If the Roenall's got the De'Arnise Keep, just bloody take it back! (Through lawful or chaotic means, whichever you prefer. Of course, there will be consequences)

And who the hell is this "Stronger" person who sent those pesky trolls and yuan-ti!?

And the Keep has a torture chamber in the cellar. being evil

Erm...sorry. Got carried away. Embarassed



Feuille:

theacefes and I had a discussion about Nalia last night wink

And we had the following thought process: if something happens to her in SoA that scares the shit out of her, it'll affect her. Imagine some poor person, one of the people she'd help, is the one who hurts her.
She might lose her confidence that what she's doing is right. She's afraid, and her moral compass has lost its magnetic strip. As it were Confused

in ToB, it's only natural that she'd turn to whatever will give her the most power: her magic. She poses and postures and FAKES CONFIDENCE. .. like our resident Knight does. She hides her vulnerability behind a facade of bad-assness Smile

But then, through a PC friendship, and maybe NPC stuff as well (maybe. Maybe!) she stops doing it, and in the end she's Nalia again: wiser, older, and more cynical, but still our Nalia. She's now not afraid to actually DO something for the needy, rather than just "throwing money at them" (as theacefes put it Very Happy).

That ties neatly in with her epilogue, actually...



And off-topic, with Minsc's epilogue, I liked it! It was all ... sad and yet fulfilling!



theacefes:

Heheh....this will be good...that way we wont have to change Nalia's epilogue and ppl can get off our backs about the 1000 epilogues that the NPCs already have.



Tameon:

The only person with too many Epilogues is Sarevok, and that's only with the Banter Packs. But Sarevok rocks, so that's okay.

I really like your Nalia ideas. I mean, really. She actually seems like an NPC I'd use for longer than her two quests now. However, JCompton's De'Arnise Romance will explain who the Stronger is, so don't do that. Also, don't do anything else that would complicate said romance. It would also be bad.



Kae:

'Stronger', I think, is the Roenalls... Razz I'm influenced by Tankards and Tempers, though, so it may not be. My memory is bad smile

I also like this idea of Nalia. I have always liked Nalia, but I think its because of what she is really, not the mask she puts up to the world about 'throwing money at the needy'. wink

And I DO think its a mask. In a way, anyway... I think, in a way, 'throwing money at the poor' might be a cheap way out of feeling guilty for being a noble.

Blah. My opinions suck, ignore this post Razz




theacefes:

I agree about stronger but only because it was the only obvious answer i could see, unless bioware didnt finish her quest...in which case...who knows??

Heheh Tnt is my favorite fan fic, but we must remember not to get confused between fan-fic and actual "facts" (not that any of this is real anyway)

Oh..and your opinions are awesome, Liam...dont ever say they suck...otherwise... mad mad mad wink



