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### Spellhold Studios _ Arath Discussion _ What do you want out of the portrait?

#### Posted by: Lady Lesatho Mar 24 2007, 12:54 AM

This is a good idea, being able to get the whole team's outlook on the portrait since you're all involved and Arath is, technically, the collectively child of you all. (Creepy!~)
Anywho, some changes have already been implemented past the image that was posted on the other forum, and I think Liam said she'd contacted the team to get some outlook and preference.
So here's the point of this: I want you all to let me know what you expect out of this potrait so I can more fully meet the expectations of you all. Naturally, it won't be perfect to anybody since I'm sure you all have your small details, but hey - if it gets the majority of you happy that's super for me too. More so because this is a project I'm enjoying and that Liam is so awsomely fun to work with. So that makes me think the rest of you are too. Hehe.
So I'm going to post the 'original' and the 'current' and get a little input. Don't mind the hair-block on the current, I'm not sure what to do with his hair yet so that's another thing that you could all help me out with. Examples, suggestions, etc are all welcome and appreciated.
Original:
Current:
Both are still rough and far from finished, but give me some ideas of what you like, what you don't like and things you think it could use.

#### Posted by: SConrad Mar 24 2007, 07:00 AM

I already sent a bunch of comments/opinions to Liam, but could rewrite it if you'd want me to.

#### Posted by: K'aeloree Mar 24 2007, 07:46 AM

QUOTE(Hishi)
Secondly, as to the portrait. Wahey!
I'm with SConrad on most things, I'm afraid. I prefer the facial hair (scratchy, yet yummy,) and the thinner nose - it makes him look like the dude from Shakespeare in love. As to the hair, the current looks good, but in a way perhaps a little too... contemporary. Something shorter and bit less pin-uppy maybe? Jewellery wise, I think he's fine without, but an earring or something couldn't hurt.
QUOTE(Riviera)
have to say, I really like his look in the second portrait! biggrin.gif
His bedhead is quite cute though.. and I think he'd definitely be the one to know that many girls (and perhaps some boys) like to run their fingers through tousled hiar.. XD
1) What type of hair? I like as is.. perhaps a tad longer? Mostly in the back, since for some reason it gives the impression that he's got it long and shaggy in front and chopped off in back..
2) Facial hair or not? I usually dislike it, but it does give him a more rugged look. I'm divided on this one.
3) Which jawline? #2 biggrin.gif
4) Any jewellery? The bone earring sounds nice. It's the only thing I can think of.. except maybe a small necklace? Maybe like a native american one, a cord of leather with some beads on it? That might be interesting. No nosering please for the love of all that is holy happy.gif
5) Broad nose, or thin nose? Any 'in the middle' option? biggrin.gif
6) Pull the ears in, or leave them as is? I vote to pull them in a bit too.
As for Seb:
Not keen on jewellery, likes the fuzz, likes thin nose, likes jawline #2, not sure about the hair, and pull the ears in a little bit, IIRC.
Me - I'm pretty much cool, but I would like a 'middle' sort of nose - when I changed the nose in #2, I made it a little *too* small - I kind of like the broad nose. But I figure, I'll go with what everyone else wants - I can always use the portrait I like myself.

#### Posted by: SConrad Mar 24 2007, 08:19 AM

Yeah, that sums up what I said, though I'm actually not bothered by the ears. So I said "change it if anyone else thinks they should be changed". I don't mind either way.
Something else I was thinking of is whether it might be possible to make the shadows under his eyes a bit darker - making him look a bit more tired, and also older.

#### Posted by: Lady Lesatho Mar 25 2007, 05:47 AM

Groovy, that all helps.
I'll play with it a little bit this weekend and post a few rough-to-clean versions sometime monday or perhaps tuesday. I'll do some examples of jewelry, some changes to the hair and skintone (eyes and ears) and keep it all in my .psp formats so then there can be a sort of: "I like that from portrait 'A', but on portrait 'B's hair." and so on and so forth. If you guys and gals come up with anything else, let me know!

#### Posted by: Lady Lesatho Mar 26 2007, 06:09 AM

Okay, took some time coming up with some rather rough designs - several of them - rather than one or two refined ideas on the hair because there are so many possible ways this could go. It might be tough to make a decision, might not. Every time I tried to come up with a fitting hair design I had more and more ideas and so.. plethora-ville. I added some more shadows to below the eyes, but not too much. (Let me know if you think it needs more, Seb.) and took the ears in a little bit.
I'll start with the decor'.
A nice wood-bead necklace, tigerseye and silver necklace and small skull-earring respectively. You may ask: "Lesatho - why the skull of a small woodland creature?!" ... *shrug* It looked neat?
And now for all the hairs.. Be prepared.
When referring - just think of them as being numbered 1-5 and that'll make enough sense. I tried to include some basic movement lines on them as well.
I'm kinda partial to #1 and #5 myself. And #4.. even though it's more trendy than appropriate. >_>
Feel free to mix and match suggestions as well.

#### Posted by: K'aeloree Mar 26 2007, 07:53 AM

I really love #2 and #5. Andandand necklace #1. Much hot. Not so keen on the earring, though - seems a bit out of place. I was thinking having a longish, thin tooth going through his ear, or something...
But, you are MADE of awesome

#### Posted by: Riviera Mar 26 2007, 08:20 AM

Hair #2
I was debating between #1 and #5 as a second choice, and finally decided on #1.
Necklace #1 too! .. Earring.. not so much.
I agree with the made of awesome comment. If I ever get an NPC made I shall give my firstborn child if you'd do the portrait.

#### Posted by: SConrad Mar 26 2007, 09:48 AM

Hair #2 or #4.
As for necklace... I like both, but I think #1 looks like it's a bit off, so I'd go with #2. No earring, IMO.

#### Posted by: Lady Lesatho Mar 27 2007, 03:13 AM

Okay, waiting on Hishi's input, but after that I'll get started on refining a little bit.
Seb - Thanks for the note on the necklace - the right side seems to sweep the wrong way. Easy enough to fix so I'll do that and repost it.
Liam - I'll try and come up with an earring design based on that. I just wasn't quite sure what to do earring-wise and I may be focusing o the 'Shadow' part of Shadow Druid a bit too much. So - I'll design something like that. Did you want the tooth going through his ear, or dangling from it with cord or something?
Riviera - I don't do that kid thing. Kids scare me sometimes. But hey, all you gotta do is ask and it shall be drawn. Eventually. >_>
So, here's what I'm tentatively planning on. Hair #2 has a lot of love right now, so I'll refine on that one and a second - it depends on Hishi's input as to what might be the tie-breaker. I''ll get them both to a semi-finished stage and then once it's decided what stays and what goes, scrub it up and start working toward finished.

#### Posted by: K'aeloree Mar 27 2007, 07:41 AM

I was thinking through would be quite cool... *grins*
I'll see if I can poke Hishi

#### Posted by: Hishi Mar 30 2007, 06:11 AM

Sorry for late response - was hungover for a few days. I kinda feel like the slightly off-the-rails member of a punk band who is likely to do too much heroine and get kicked out. ^^;; Only if the band was a mod, and the heroine was like, vodka.
Erm... I like the necklaces, particularly the tiger's eye, however like the rest of you I'm not soo keen on the earring. Hair wise, I'd say #5, though I'm still not keen on him having long hair - what about some short curls, something slightly boyish and cherubic? As for the other hairs... they're all beautiful, buut... I'd really like to see him with short, curly hair. It might look awful, but I'd still like to see. xD

#### Posted by: Lady Lesatho Apr 3 2007, 05:38 AM

Okay, here's some updates.
Took the popular hair and fleshed it out a little, also toyed with a new earring and stuck that with the new hair and per request - tried to come up with some curly hair. ..I think maybe its only half successful. I couldn't find any really good references, but if you had any in mind Hishi, let me know.
Edit: Just noticed I snapped him with the wood-bead necklace. Pay no mind to that >_>

#### Posted by: K'aeloree Apr 24 2007, 03:19 PM

I really, really really love the emo hair that way. Because it makes him look like he's trying to look younger than he actually is.
I'm not sure how the rest of you feel, but dayum, I'm using *this* one on my runthroughs with him!
And just so you all don't wonder wtf is happening here, I'm still totally willing to work on this - just veryveryvery busy on SHS at the moment.

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