Hey,

I am making a shapeshift spell, what's basicly a demon form (Tana'ri).
And I have included the change portrait variable to change portraits when you shapeshift, now my question was, that I want to do the same to the soundset (PC Voice). I want to change the soundset when I am shapeshifting into the demon.
But I couldn't find any change variables to soundset's. So is there such a variable, that is perhaps not included in the Near Infinity Resource Editor? If so, is there a way to script it myself?

thanks in advance

I am planning to use my own created soundset (Demon_).

Thanks already for your help.

First of all thanks for the help,

second where does it say which soundset it has to use?
and a follow up question, where do I have to place this script? within the spell script?

Thanks already

I don't want to be impatient, but I really would like to know an answer to my question!

So anyone, any help is apreciated... :help:

Hey thanks for responding!

So if I am correct this goes into a *.bcs script?

So if I understand this correctly it will be like this:
(using Illid_ (soundset, standard)
(When Shapeshift in Tanar'i / Demon form Demon_ (soundset, changed)):

IF
Tue() //Should this not be True, instead of Tue?
THEN
RESPONSE #100
SetPlayerSound(LastSummonerOf(Myself),~Sorry for being so impatient.~ [Demon_],INITIAL_MEETING)
SetPlayerSound(LastSummonerOf(Myself),~Blah, blah.~ [Illid_],SELECT_COMMON1)

...

DestroySelf()
END

You were also speaking of an invisible creature? Will it not be easier of this is used by the shapeshifted creature so Creature B (DEM)?

Eitherway thanks again.

So the wav file can also be directed as the one from BECOMING_LEADER:

SetPlayerSound(LastSummonerOf(Myself),~Sorry for being so impatient.~ [Demon_b],INITIAL_MEETING)

SetPlayerSound(LastSummonerOf(Myself),~Blah, blah.~ [Illid_b],SELECT_COMMON1)

Because I do not have the wav file Demon_.wav or Illid_.wav (I can make them but if it is not needed, I will let it be.)

Another thing, how do I command the creature / spell to activate this script?

Thanks already for the big help!

Well I did made two new sound files: Illid_.wav and Demon_.wav.
But when I was testing this script in NI I got an error, saying:

Error 1/3 - Line 6

Expected I:STRREF* But found ~Sorry for being so impatient.~[Demon_]

Error 2/3 - Line 7

blah~[Illid_],SELECT_COMMON1 not found in SNDSLOT.IDS

So more help definately appreciated!

I still get these's errors in Near Infinity when I want to compile the BCS:

Error 1/3 - Line 6

Expected I:STRREF* But found ~Sorry for being so impatient.~[Demon_]

Error 2/3 - Line 7

blah~[Illid_],SELECT_COMMON1 not found in SNDSLOT.IDS

Should I ignore them?

Further I could not find any dialogue (*.BCS file) of the creature, could it be the case that I changed a character into a creature, that that's why I cannot find any *.BCS?

Eitherway I was thinking, is there not a way to include this SetPlayerSound,
within the shapeshift spell file, like it was possible for the set portrait variable?
If so, then in which program could I manualy write such a variable to add it to the spell? Because that would be a hack lot easier then is?

Thanks again for the help and interest.

Thanks again for the big help!

I have made these files just as you wrote them down, with only changing the lines:
~Sorry for being so impatient.~ And ~Bla, bla.~

I have saved all the files with the same name: Sound

So I have the following files:

Sound.baf
sound.tra
sound.tp2

Or do I have to rename all the files to the same name as the creature (DEMON.CRE) file has, so "DEMON.<file type>" ?

And when you say Weidu, then If I am correct I have to copy over the newest weidu.exe file and rename it to the same name as the tp2 file, right?

I must be a pain in the arse with all those questions?!

Thanks again!

Or do I have to rename all the files to the same name as the creature (DEMON.CRE) file has, so "DEMON.<file type>" ?

You do not need to do this. As long as the scripts are properly assigned, then the name was does not matter.

So how does it work then, because what I understand of this, is that when I shapeshift my avatar into the creature (DEMON.CRE) then the script does its work, giving me the choice to change soundsets.

Do I then have to change the .tp2 file to this?:

COMPILE ~dir\sound.baf~ 
USING ~dir\sound.tra~
EXTEND_BOTTOM ~anyscript.bcs~ ~override\DEMON.bcs~ //Use this if you want this script to be a part of another script.

So that it is activated when the avatar turns into the DEMON.CRE?

I must be a pain in the arse with all those questions?! 

That's not a question.

As Quoted from Eek The Cat:
"Really?!"

Eitherway thanks for the help so far.

Thanks again!

Also, did you create the file demon.cre yourself?

Yes, I did. I made it out of a character file and converted it to a creature file.

The .TP2 file has to be named the same as the folder "Soundchange", am I right?

Everything else has been done as you said.

Do you think I would know all this stuff if I'd never asked someone to teach me?

Thanks, now I feel less newbie-like!

Then you might want to add the creature into the tp2.

Will do!

Do you have a script called demon.bcs assigned to the creature.

No, how do you do that?

Oh, boy, converted character files... I hope you've edited it in NI. Removed player-scripts and unflagging Export Allowed and stuff...

I checked everything, I only wasn't sure about Export Allowed, so I have removed that flag. After the char to cre conversion (Done via Creature Maker), I checked the creature in NI, and changed all of the things, but I am unsure of three things:

Overide script: JP1COUNT.BCS*

Default script: DPLAYER3.BCS*

Dialog: SRCHOOS.DLG

* Are these the .BCS scripts? Which one of them (or both) has to be assigned to the DEMON.BCS?

I have included the DEMON.CRE file, for a closer look if you will.

No. The weidu-file should be named the same as the tp2, though. As Rastor said, it isn't vital, but recommended.

I have changed both files (TP2 & Exe) to Setup-Sound.

Thanks again for your time and help.

It is for the PC (playable character), So there won't be any NPC's involved.
The Demon.cre will get this script assigned, which is basicly the shapeshifted creature the avatar changes in, when you use the spell.

My only concern is, will this also effect the PC (playable character)?

But I do prefere the way SConrad did it, because he did put alot of efford in making the script for me.

Eitherway thanks for the otherway.

P.s. If I want to assign the Demon.bcs to the Demon.cre, then first of I must create a demon.bcs (with nothing in it) myself, then assign it to the "Override scipt" variable within the creature file via NI, and after that start the setup-Sound.exe. Am I right?

Thanks already

EDIT:

I tried it out via the above way, but nothing happened when I had shapeshifted.
I think I know why it doesn't work, the soundset (Demon_  or Illid_) have no strings in the dialog.tlk. So the DEMON.bcs script cannot find the sounds, atleast so it appears.

So more help please.  :help:  SConrad,  Kwiat_W, anyone?!

Ok this is what I have done:

I made a new script demon.baf and put in the lines:

IF
Global("voicechange","GLOBAL",1)
Global("NewSounds","LOCALS",0)
THEN
RESPONSE #100
 SetPlayerSound(Myself,@1,INITIAL_MEETING) //note that you can change INITIAL_MEETING into something else...
 SetPlayerSound(Myself,@2,SELECT_COMMON1) //same here...
 SetGlobal("NewSounds","LOCALS",1)
END

I have deleted the following file:

sound.baf

I made a new file demon.bcs (an empty file)

I have set the override-script variable to demon.bcs.

I replaced the:                              

Default script: DPLAYER3.BCS

Dialog: SRCHOOS.DLG

With:

Default script: NONE

Dialog: NONE

and changed the lines of the setup-sound.tp2 to:

BACKUP ~Soundchange\Backup~
AUTHOR ~youremail@youremail.com~
ASK_EVERY_COMPONENT

BEGIN ~Soundchange~

COMPILE ~Soundchange\demon.baf~ 
USING ~Soundchange\sound.tra~
EXTEND_BOTTOM ~demon.bcs~ ~override\sound.bcs~ //Where demon.bcs is the script assigned to the creature.

I might take a look at your .cre if it doesn't work. But I want you to try to fix it yourself first. 

  <- I may be, but you are right, otherwise I will be known as the noob who asks the same questions over and over and over again!   And we don't want that!

Alright, good. Now you can delete the demon.bcs.

Demon.bcs has been deleted.

You should also remove the EXTEND_BOTTOM-action from your tp2.

I have done that, so this is now how the code looks like:

BACKUP ~Soundchange\Backup~
AUTHOR ~youremail@youremail.com~
ASK_EVERY_COMPONENT

BEGIN ~Soundchange~

COMPILE ~Soundchange\demon.baf~ 
USING ~Soundchange\sound.tra~

And you should perhaps use weidu for your creature as well. Do you know how to do that?

I am sorry to say, that I do not know how to do that.
So if you recommend this, I will make a new on via weidu, but I will need some help how to do it.

So thanks already.

No, it does not have to be joinable, because it is just a creature which the PC avatar changes into. That is if you mean joinable within the PC's party.

What do I have to look out for in the shapeshift spells? Because Mine spell is a edited spell, of the shapechange Greater Cat.

About the creature, I have taken a look of the Valen Mod creature, and what do I have to look for? Furthermore I addded the tp2 code of the mod as an attachment

*If the code may not be posted, let me know, and I will remove it ASAP.*

I did noticed that it uses variables to overwrite existing files. CRE and such.
Is this what you mean?

Offcourse, I have send the files to your E-mail adres.

It is rather a big file: 3.80 MB; using the best compression! I have used Winrar to compress the file.

Will you send or post a message if you have recieved the file?

Thanks already.

I'll look into it later, it's 2.46 am and I have a full day to wake up to, so I won't do anything more tonight...

Take your time, there is no hurry with the mod.

Is all the hassle really worth it? Just copy over the sounds via the TP2, or at least make sure that they correlate in regards to streff's and make a bcs that can be run from any dialog file. Something like this should work:-

The soundset's of mine, does not have any strings to the dialog.tlk, which is one of the problems why Sconrad is looking at it.

But thanks anyway.

I just saw that I was logged out, so the above topic is mine.

I really like the unless... thing... :thumb:

hehe this mod has surpassed noob, it is now for the prof's!

...I don't want to be impatient, but sConrad, do you have any progress? or any kind of luck?

Giddy Up!

Wooohhh Horsie!
PPppenalties....Oh well..if it brings a solution, give me all the penalties you need! So yeah, tell me, give the solution to the Young Grasshopper!

There is a way to make the soundset change, and then let it change back.

But that requires one of these two:

Well that's good to hear.

1. That the soundset the player wants to play with is chosen at installation of the mod.

Well, that's not really what I was looking for...

2. That the soundset the player wants to play with is chosen in a dialogue at the start of the game, in Irenicus Dungeon.

Well then it is only possible to do it once...

Your call.

Can you say, WERE DOOMED!!! ohh a wall! :bash: , ough in my mind it looked alot less painfull...

So reading this, there is no way to make you choose when you shapeshift back and forth.

I was thinking, probaly you had already thought about it, but is there a way to make the creature have his own soundset, that has strings in the dialog, so that when you shapeshift, the creature sounds will be used instead of the character sounds? I saw something like that in DLTCEP. I mean I saw that DLTCEP has strings for the soundset's.

Actually, what I meant with the dialogue-thing was that you have to specify in that dialogue: "I would like to use soundset x for my character". It will work flawlessly to shapeshift back and forth.

Well I don't see if the dialogue thing would be a problem, seeing that it would make you give a choice if you would continue the same voice or the demon voice. So this could be a good solution.

I haven't tried what you're suggesting. I don't think it'll work, though.

I hate it to say it, but I have the same feeling, that it wouldn't make a difference.

So if you can make option 1 to work, so that you have a dialogue, when you shapeshift to the demon form and when you shapeshift back, the same dialogue appears, giving you the same choices all over again. Then thanks.