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#41 The Imp

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 07:12 AM

Where can I download the latest version? Download link is broken.
Erhm, the RR v4.70 thread gives this link, which works for me at least.

Edited by The Imp, 25 April 2014 - 07:14 AM.

Yep, Jarno Mikkola. my Mega Mod FAQ. Use of the BWS, and how to use it(scroll down that post a bit). 
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Posted 25 April 2014 - 07:36 AM

That's weird. I can download it on my desktop PC but not on my laptop.



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Posted 30 April 2014 - 05:16 AM

I had download errors, my virus checker thought it was a virus and woulden't let me use it - but was not telling me so!



#44 Wisp

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 08:33 AM

Many virus scanners throw false positives on WeiDU.



#45 James Harrison

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 09:08 AM

I eventually figured it out - I thought ti was naughty deleting the file without telling me etc. (and blocking the download site!)



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Posted 13 August 2018 - 10:56 AM

Hi All:

 

Date is 8/13/18.

 

Trying to download Rouge Rebalancing v4.92.  Followed the path from SHS and got a mod file.  When I extracted the mod, I expected to find a Setup-..........exe file.  There was none.  Is this file missing?

 

Tom



#47 The Imp

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 11:20 AM

Hi All:
 
Date is 8/13/18.
 
Trying to download Rouge Rebalancing v4.92.  Followed the path from SHS and got a mod file.  When I extracted the mod, I expected to find a Setup-..........exe file.  There was none.  Is this file missing?
 
Tom
It's there, if you open up the file with winrar for example, just look:
 
re5.jpg
Many virus scanners throw false positives on WeiDU.
Rather, all badly made virus scanner programs do this, as they look a portion of code and detect "security alert" suspects, because it's hash value matches with any number of other files that are known viruses, but then allow some suspects to be removed by a flag from the suspect list because they have been cleared by people that know something about coding... while all the other files don't get to have the flag.
I would bet that Windows 10 get to be detected as a virus by a antivirus programs from 1999, too.

Edited by The Imp, 13 August 2018 - 11:32 AM.

Yep, Jarno Mikkola. my Mega Mod FAQ. Use of the BWS, and how to use it(scroll down that post a bit). 
OK, desert dweller, welcome to the sanity, you are free to search for the limit, it's out there, we drew it in the sand. Ouh, actually it was still snow then.. but anyways.


#48 Creepin

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 12:02 PM

I get the impression the Rouge Rebalancing v4.92 is missing the Setup-......exe file.  Any chance to find it with another site?
Just take any other setup-X.exe and rename it to setup-rr.exe, you are all set :)

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#49 EvilMax

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 12:37 PM

Strange... My archive rr-v492.exe contains inside folder rr and setup-rr.exe  Maybe this is some unpacking or antivirus issue? Windows Defender always complains about rr-v492.exe and tries to delete. I always disallow and restore :) Anyway, Creepin gave you 100% working solution. All setup-**.exe are just renaimed WeiDU, no more, no less.



#50 The Imp

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 01:50 PM

Windows Defender always complains about rr-v492.exe and tries to delete.

Like I said here, that's because it's a stupid program made by amateurs ... not a trustworthy program made by professionals, with experience of 25 30 years in the cyber security business. Just to throw an example.


Edited by The Imp, 13 August 2018 - 01:59 PM.

Yep, Jarno Mikkola. my Mega Mod FAQ. Use of the BWS, and how to use it(scroll down that post a bit). 
OK, desert dweller, welcome to the sanity, you are free to search for the limit, it's out there, we drew it in the sand. Ouh, actually it was still snow then.. but anyways.


#51 tomkaz

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 03:28 PM

Hi All:
 
Back to Rogue Rebalancing v4.92.
 
From SHS:
 
If I try to download the Windows version of this mod, the file that it tries to download is rr-v4.92.exe.  This crashes and I get the message "Insufficient Permissions".
 
If I try to download the platform independent version of this mod, the file that it tries to download is rr-v4.92.zip.  This file downloads, but does not have the setup....exe file.
 
I can download the rr-v491.exe file and install without problems.
 
When I unzip rr-v4.92.zip with 7-Zip I only get the folder "rr".
 
When I open the foldrer "rr" I get the folders "doc", "lib", "rr_core", "rr_cyric", "rr_stim", "rr_upgr", tra and the file setup-rr.tp2.
 
So I cannot figure how to create the setup-rr.exe file.  Where will Rogue Rebalancing v4.92 find it.  If I use the setup-rr.exe file from v4.91, I do not think it will work.  I may be wrong.
 
Tom


#52 The Imp

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 06:42 PM

So I cannot figure how to create the setup-rr.exe file.

Any other mod's setup-modname.exe will work. Say, setup-eet.exe or setup-DjinniCompanion.exe ... yeah, the v4.91's .exe is older than the v4.92 and thu7s might contain code the older .exe can't use, so it's unlikely to work. But the two examples are made this year, so ...


Yep, Jarno Mikkola. my Mega Mod FAQ. Use of the BWS, and how to use it(scroll down that post a bit). 
OK, desert dweller, welcome to the sanity, you are free to search for the limit, it's out there, we drew it in the sand. Ouh, actually it was still snow then.. but anyways.


#53 Creepin

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 10:19 PM

So I cannot figure how to create the setup-rr.exe file.

Setup-*.exe in every mod is the same WeiDU exe renamed to follow given mod's name. Thus all you need to do is to download ANY mod where setup-that_mods_name.exe is present and RENAME that .exe into setup-rr.exe.
Now of course there's different versions of WeiDU exe, like, v.1, v.2 and so on up to v.230 or whichever is the latest, so you should preferably get your donor .exe from the mod updated/release in this year, just in case (as Jarno said), but with RR being as old as it is you would do fine even with .exe version of 2015 or something.


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#54 tomkaz

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Posted 14 August 2018 - 06:23 AM

Hi Creepin and The Imp:

 

Thanks for the comments about "setup-rr.exe".  They taught me some more about how the mods work.

 

As I said, I have been a player for a long time as I was tied up with work and little time for games.  The result was I spent little time with reading the posts on how to create mods.  Now I am retired and plan to read those posts as long as my wife lets me.  Any suggestions on where and which files to start with?

 

Tom



#55 Creepin

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Posted 14 August 2018 - 07:59 AM

I've moved the discussion from BWP18 to here because it was getting all the more offtopic there.

Regarding starting your modding career it would still be offtopic both here and on BWP18 thread :D , so you might want to start a proper thread in IE Help subforum to increase exposure, but I won't split it further unless it blows off proportion here as well :) So, I don't know if my experience could be considered mainstream, but when I started modding I first figured what I want to do and then peeked at other's mods dabbling in the chosen genre learning how they did the same. Unless you're a programmer by trade you might want to stick with older mods at first because they used much simpler weidu back then, and when you are comfortable with the general concepts expand your study to modern things like LPF. That's what worked for me anyway. There are also places with tutorials on this and that (1, 2, 3 and 4 comes to mind), but even with these it's worth it to decide what do you want to do first :)


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#56 The Imp

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Posted 14 August 2018 - 11:16 AM

...but even with these it's worth it to decide what do you want to do first :)

Yes, "and then ask from people where to find specific help, or help with specific things", that's what the smiley means ... to me. :lol: Yeah, that'5 just laughthingoutaloud.

That's good advice. My own experience started when I ran into a mod I wanted to IMProveTM, and so I tried things ... studied the actual long guide on how to do stuff in weidu, and failed a lot, until I one day kinda succeeded, and then failed a lot of times there after... while I am kinda still at it, time to time.


Edited by The Imp, 14 August 2018 - 11:17 AM.

Yep, Jarno Mikkola. my Mega Mod FAQ. Use of the BWS, and how to use it(scroll down that post a bit). 
OK, desert dweller, welcome to the sanity, you are free to search for the limit, it's out there, we drew it in the sand. Ouh, actually it was still snow then.. but anyways.


#57 agris

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Posted 12 November 2018 - 07:17 AM

Regarding item balance - an admittedly poorly defined concept.

 

The Composite Shortbow +1 (RR#BOW03.ITM I believe) that RR adds is far too inexpensive.

 

The .ITM file has the cost at 500 gp. Based on some BG1 items, it's +1 THAC0/+2 DMG should cost ~1850 gp, as +1/+1 shortbows cost 1500, and +2/+3 cost 2500.

 

edit: for clarity, and I've attached the modified item if you'd like to use it.

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Edited by agris, 12 November 2018 - 07:29 AM.