Liriel Baenre

I have been wanting to create Liriel in BGII, and as BGII follows 3rd adition rules, I was wondering how her "Official" stats are possible found Here These are her official stats, how is this possible?

Edited by ShadowTek, 10 January 2012 - 08:35 PM.

I have been wanting to create Liriel in BGII, and as BGII follows 3rd adition rules,

First of all, the Baldur's Gate games follows 2E. You would thus *not* be able to put her in BG/BG2 with her official stats and abilities; in 2E there wasn't much of a skill system, except for thieves. Wizard/Cleric/Fighter is not a viable multiclass for elves - I kind of doubt it's viable for anyone.

But you could put her in the game with a 2E approximation of her stats, sure. The important part about a NPC is the character's personality, rather than stats and classes.

First of all, the Baldur's Gate games follows 2E. You would thus *not* be able to put her in BG/BG2 with her official stats and abilities; in 2E there wasn't much of a skill system, except for thieves. Wizard/Cleric/Fighter is not a viable multiclass for elves - I kind of doubt it's viable for anyone.

But you could put her in the game with a 2E approximation of her stats, sure. The important part about a NPC is the character's personality, rather than stats and classes.

Opps yeah I just checked it, my bad, I mixed up the 2nd edition with 3rd (I had 2nd edition in that post but I edited it to say 3rd, as I also play D&D but Im mixed it all up lol) Sorry my bad, but thanks!

@Daulmakan opps..

If you want her AD&D stats I can find one of my old books and give you her stats.

I would make her elven fighter/mage, subtract 3 from her intelligence (to account for 3rd edition attribute gains), give her a magic resistance (rules say it's 50% + 2% per level, up to 80%, but Viconia has a fixed resistance, so you can copy that) and change her to drow colors. Also, drow get +2 saves vs. spells, so you can add that, and some spell like abilities (but they lose these when living on surface). While in bright light (as in outdoor zones during daytime) they lose 2 dex, and have -2 penalty to attack and saves vs. their spells.

I would make her elven fighter/mage

From the Elaine Cunningham's books(the Daughter of the Drow, Tangled Webs, Windwalker), I would never ever make her to be a fighter... more likely she would be Cleric/Mage multi class, or even Cleric -> Mage dual class.

Edited by Jarno Mikkola, 12 January 2012 - 12:30 AM.

Her AD&D stats. I know a lot about her, being one of my favorite D&D characters and at one time I was going to do a mod with her.

Her AD&D stats. I know a lot about her, being one of my favorite D&D characters and at one time I was going to do a mod with her.

Worst scan ever I'll put this one up here for a while:

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I have to agree with Jarno though, in the books she doesn't really come of as a Fighter, and multiclass FM doesn't really sit well at all. FC, on the other hand, would fit.

Cool, thanks for all the helpful info
Yeah I agree, a mage/cleric does fit the books more, she didn't seem so much a fighter, and surely not 8th level.

Edited by ShadowTek, 12 January 2012 - 12:37 PM.

Even without Fighter levels, I'd still give her some combat abilities that are better than those of a C/M, as House Baenre lived in Menzoberranzan, where all drow are schooled in fighting, magic, and (un)holy service to Lloth (AKA Lolth). Her ability scores look fine on the scanned page of information in this thread.

Even without Fighter levels, I'd still give her some combat abilities that are better than those of a C/M, as House Baenre lived in Menzoberranzan, where all drow are schooled in fighting, magic, and (un)holy service to Lloth (AKA Lolth). Her ability scores look fine on the scanned page of information in this thread.

Yeah but I think only half elves can have three classes. Unless you shadowkeeper her, but correct me if Im wrong.. didnt she lose all cleric abilities by the end of the series or was she still good with one of the gods she was playing (and she was playing the gods lol, gotta love that) 3 gods she was playing with right? Lolth, that thief or what ever god and the good drow goddess?

Edited by ShadowTek, 16 January 2012 - 10:10 PM.

I read the books recently .. but can't really remember what god she was in good standing with. I believe it's Llolth, Mask and Eilistraee you're thinking about btw, but I'm not sure she ever venerated Mask? She used to call her outward façade for "the Mask" though.

Tripleclassing is not restricted to HE only in BG(2) at least, but I don't know about PnP.

EDIT: The Forgotten Realms wiki is spot on here.
"Religion
Liriel renounced the worship of Lolth.She might have become a priestess of Eilistraee had events in Windwalker not closed that door for her. She since has converted to the worship of Mystra and is a lone priestess of her faith."

It also lists her as Fighter1, Cleric 3 and Wizard 11. That's pretty much a perfect match IMO.

Edited by Dakk, 17 January 2012 - 04:59 AM.