Which Mods are better?
#1
Posted 09 September 2004 - 01:31 PM
For ME - I like the small NPC + Quest types!
(MAINLY because in three years I have yet to get ANY large mods to %£#& WORK!!!)
No kiddin. I have 56K dial-up (for the moment, I am switching to broadband soon) and in the last three years I have tried D/L'ding "NeverEnding Journey" (14 times, to date, each time taking...oh, a week or better) "Tourtured Souls" (ONLY 8 ! Times, average D/L time, week or two) And "Darkest Day" (4 times, and D/L time? Ya DON'T want to know...)
Not once has one of them worked (for me) The closest I got was with "Tourtured Souls" which actually loaded and worked Right up until it was time to branch off to Yoshi's island - at which time the game crashed. :bash:
Of the Others...
"Neverending Journey" (Which was really the one I wanted MOST... Welp, directions and such said that I should find a portal in the very opening dungeon. Yup, found it...Along with a pop up reading Something to the effect of "As you approach portal a force pushes you back"
According to some helpful soul in the ol' Team BG forum I had not D/L an area of something. Right, I d/L everything I could from the mirror site and installed it religiously... After the14th time I gave up.
Darkest Day? After devorting a matter of MONTHS (All total) d/L it each and every time... Wouldn't load.
Nope... Give me a good NPC with a small, involved Workable quest and some good banters and I am a happy man.
(Whoa...I needed to vent.)
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#2
Posted 09 September 2004 - 02:11 PM
Look at my Timestop Tweak, for example. The readme took longer to write than the entire mod. Now, THAT'S a small mod.
Khadion NPC mod - Team leader, head designer
Hubelpot NPC mod - Team leader, coder
NPC Damage - Coder
PC Soundsets - Coder, voice actor
Brythe NPC mod - Designer
DragonLance TC - Glory of Istar - Designer
The NPC Interaction Expansion Project - Writer for Cernd, Sarevok
The Jerry Zinger Show - Producer
Iron Modder 5 - Winner
#3
Posted 09 September 2004 - 03:38 PM
Although DLTC is a massive mod, I have heard it is quite perfect and has a good public service when it comes to technical issues, and yet, it is still in that group of 'large modules'.
Big mods in general (I can speak for myself hehe) take a longer time to make, and have a greater chance of not seeing the light of the day (ie modder becomes tired of the project, etc.), while smaller mods have a better chance of making it through.
This is only my point of view from the crowd.
-Galactygon
#4
Posted 09 September 2004 - 05:48 PM
I hate to agree with Gal', we never seem to agree on anything, and I hate breaking with tradition... but he makes a very valid point. There seems to be only one real way to do an all out total conversion, and that is to make a crapload of minimods with the intention of integrating them all together when they're done.For me, I am undecided between the large mods and the small mods. Just because TDD has a slew of bugs doesn't mean large mods suck. There are several small mods that are IMO worse than TDD, so it isn't always "The larger it gets the worse it gets".
Although DLTC is a massive mod, I have heard it is quite perfect and has a good public service when it comes to technical issues, and yet, it is still in that group of 'large modules'.
Big mods in general (I can speak for myself hehe) take a longer time to make, and have a greater chance of not seeing the light of the day (ie modder becomes tired of the project, etc.), while smaller mods have a better chance of making it through.
This is only my point of view from the crowd.
-Galactygon
Edited by Chevar, 09 September 2004 - 05:50 PM.
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#5
Posted 09 September 2004 - 07:12 PM
Tired of Bhaal? Try some classics mods instead:
Classic Adventures
Official Classic Adventures Website
#6
Posted 09 September 2004 - 07:12 PM
Futurama quotes rock
#7
Posted 09 September 2004 - 08:22 PM
And the raven, never flitting, still is sitting, still is sitting
On the pallid bust of Pallas just above my chamber door;
And his eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming,
And the lamp-light o'er him streaming throws his shadow on the floor;
And my soul from out that shadow that lies floating on the floor
Shall be lifted - nevermore!
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#8
Posted 09 September 2004 - 08:43 PM
I recently got IWD just for the maps, have to get the expansion now 'cus there's 20 moew maps in an official expansion that requires both.. I'm just map hoarding. I heard the ones for the TOSC maps were'nt worth the bother.. how pathetic is that buying games just for the maps.. worse yet I just found a utility that claims it can extract map 'tiles' and creature animations from NWN.. haven't tested it yet.I think kits are a good type of mod, but the best are the large add-ons that give you an entirely different game, that way you can play on and on without ever having to go out and buy a new game. I've been thinking about getting Icewind Dale 2 and PST for a long time now, but i just keep downloading mods instead.
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#9
Posted 10 September 2004 - 12:37 AM
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#10
Posted 10 September 2004 - 12:47 AM
I just love the extra-interaction.
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#11
Posted 10 September 2004 - 01:52 AM
Yesterday I bought Lionheart just for the maps. Mind you it only cost me £2.00 .how pathetic is that buying games just for the maps
#12
Posted 10 September 2004 - 04:50 AM
I don't consider it a neccessity. You need competent teammembers above all else, rather than a team of 3000 writers as per Godspawn. Having a leader who works really really hard is a distinct bonus.There seems to be only one real way to do an all out total conversion, and that is to make a crapload of minimods with the intention of integrating them all together when they're done.
And it doesn't concern you that a mod developed in this way is going to be awfully disjointed as far as story/inter-quest connection goes?
#13
Posted 10 September 2004 - 05:09 AM
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But once ladies glanced at
His special enhancement
They vanished with nary a trace."
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#14
Posted 10 September 2004 - 05:14 AM
i|\/||\/|0r7a11i7y, i |_0\/e y0|_|. d0 y0|_| \/\/4|\|7 70 60 \/\/17|-| m3?I like romance mods with l337 quests. I dont mind if they are just mods or parts of TCs :love:
#15
Posted 10 September 2004 - 07:00 AM
= [HINT]DLTC[/HINT], right Sim?I don't consider it a neccessity. You need competent teammembers above all else, rather than a team of 3000 writers as per Godspawn. Having a leader who works really really hard is a distinct bonus.There seems to be only one real way to do an all out total conversion, and that is to make a crapload of minimods with the intention of integrating them all together when they're done.
Khadion NPC mod - Team leader, head designer
Hubelpot NPC mod - Team leader, coder
NPC Damage - Coder
PC Soundsets - Coder, voice actor
Brythe NPC mod - Designer
DragonLance TC - Glory of Istar - Designer
The NPC Interaction Expansion Project - Writer for Cernd, Sarevok
The Jerry Zinger Show - Producer
Iron Modder 5 - Winner
#16
Posted 10 September 2004 - 07:36 AM
#17
Posted 10 September 2004 - 11:55 AM
Just how many worlds revolve around you? I write, it's what I do. I have never centered an entire world around one small group of characters.I don't consider it a neccessity. You need competent teammembers above all else, rather than a team of 3000 writers as per Godspawn. Having a leader who works really really hard is a distinct bonus.There seems to be only one real way to do an all out total conversion, and that is to make a crapload of minimods with the intention of integrating them all together when they're done.
And it doesn't concern you that a mod developed in this way is going to be awfully disjointed as far as story/inter-quest connection goes?
The characters must interact with the world around them. The world evolves and changes as time passes. The role a person takes in the world is ultimately upto them. Life can pass them by, or they can seize it.
If a person went through life doing everything that was asked of them, they would not be living a life of their own. Why should a game be so linear? Life has no central plot.
You're like so many other poor misfortunate souls that think that a game must have a logical path, one rout to the next leading to a final outcome. Life is not so linear, nor do games that are meant to emulate life need to be so restrictive and linear.
The goals of an indivigual, the goals of a group, the goals of a king, and the goals of a nation never coincide.. In a troubled world there is always work to be dome for one that seeks to be a hero or a villan.
Imagine what would ever happen if a character was allowed to follow their own goals and aspirations, instead of following straight course designed by game programmers? Nomatter how far you branch off, you must always return to the course they have plotted for you.. What would happen if that was not the case?
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#18
Posted 10 September 2004 - 01:52 PM
#19
Posted 10 September 2004 - 04:33 PM
Yup, and that's the general feel I'm shooting for.. I liked the side quests more than the actual plotline of the game. I could play small quests forever and not get bored.It's called an MMORPG...
Edited by Chevar, 10 September 2004 - 06:26 PM.
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#20 -Guest-
Posted 11 September 2004 - 03:32 AM
I'm tired of the huuuge storyline, it forces it to be linear.
Some people claim that's more consistent or immersive,
but I think having a good imagination of your own,
and keeping your character's story as the common link,
is the fun of a campaign consisting of different modules and side quests.