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#1 Sein_Schatten

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Posted 22 April 2005 - 04:29 AM

DA will have no monks, no hand combat. what do you think? :(

i like monks and their style. its fun but apparantly it doesnt fit in the DA universe.

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#2 igi

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Posted 22 April 2005 - 09:02 AM

I think it's good, and will hopefully lead to something more original.
Introducing monks into a world brings along so much junk with it, same as introducing samurai would.... urgh.

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#3 Archmage Silver

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Posted 23 April 2005 - 01:14 AM

Originality is something rare these days... if it means that they leave some basic elements or make them work differently than normal, it's all the better.

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Posted 23 April 2005 - 03:11 PM

Well honestly, how much damage is a fist going to deal to a man in full armour? No monks is fine by me.
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#5 NiGHTMARE

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Posted 24 April 2005 - 05:18 AM

I dunno why so many fantasy games have Oriental-style monks, but European type monks almost never feature.

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#6 Child

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Posted 25 April 2005 - 01:51 AM

I dunno why so many fantasy games have Oriental-style monks, but European type  monks almost never feature.

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Maybe becoz they sat aroudn with vows of silence, and many belonged to an order that believed in mortification of the flesh...that would make their constitution practically zero. Also, the no violence thing might have created a problem...
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Posted 25 April 2005 - 02:12 AM

Also, the no violence thing might have created a problem...

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Not to a true Role Player!
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Posted 25 April 2005 - 04:50 AM

Also, the no violence thing might have created a problem...

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Not to a true Role Player!

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That depends on whether u class getting cut to ribbons by every single enemy u meet as a true role player a problem or not I guess...
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Posted 19 June 2005 - 07:32 PM

I dunno why so many fantasy games have Oriental-style monks, but European type  monks almost never feature.

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Maybe becoz they sat aroudn with vows of silence, and many belonged to an order that believed in mortification of the flesh...that would make their constitution practically zero. Also, the no violence thing might have created a problem...

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Tell that to a Knights Templar, they where actually fighting monks and probably the closest thing to a fantasy paladin. There where also other orders of fighting monks.

Also, martial arts have existed here in europe as well, but our traditions have been lost in time. Martial arts was also a natural compliment to armed combat, even if you are wielding a sword, kicking your enemy when you get an opportunity to do so could be done and where trained among other things.

I guess I will need to register If this continue... :lol:

#10 Archmage Silver

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Posted 19 June 2005 - 08:07 PM

Tell that to a Knights Templar, they where actually fighting monks and probably the closest thing to a fantasy paladin. There where also other orders of fighting monks.

Well... they certainly were quite far from the fantasy paladins, killing women, children and men in the name of god. They were wrong to do that of course, but not all of them even believed that they did some good, many just wanted to get power and riches by being a templar. So, quite far from Keldorn...

#11 Child

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Posted 20 June 2005 - 11:43 AM

Tell that to a Knights Templar, they where actually fighting monks and probably the closest thing to a fantasy paladin. There where also other orders of fighting monks.

Well... they certainly were quite far from the fantasy paladins, killing women, children and men in the name of god. They were wrong to do that of course, but not all of them even believed that they did some good, many just wanted to get power and riches by being a templar. So, quite far from Keldorn...

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They wern't really monks anyway. not proper monks. Not according to the Rule of St Benedict. I guess that just means they are not Benedictine monks, but seeing as the Benedictine rule has been the established mode by which all monk orders are established since the 9th century...
Knight Templars were more like knights who had devoted themselves to god. They had a chapter hosue, but their primary role was as a knight, not as monks. They fought for Christianity, rather than having a primary role of extolling God..which makes them more heavenly peacekeepers than monks.

(I guess AS level Medieval history in monks comes in handy for some things, anyway...)

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Posted 20 June 2005 - 02:03 PM

Friar Tuck always kicked ass... but then he did pray for the ass-kicked afterwards (and sometimes during the ass-kicking too). :)
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