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#1 Cheerful_Dirge

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Posted 29 May 2005 - 05:47 PM

I've played the game KOTOR2 many times and I realized that there was a lot more to it then they let on.

(Please note that for all of the following I have facts to support their existance, and I'm not trying to start a debate on if they're true or not- I want to know if anyone knows anything about them)

First of all, I heard that once you beat all of the planets (before going to the jedi enclave to meet the masters) there is a "shady figure" that randomly appears on one of the planets for a few moments at a time. If you talk to this person, they will sell you a bomb strong enough to open up one of the tombs on Korriban. Upon entering the tomb, you find Revan, and they give you some items. Afterwards, if you played as a lightside character in KOTOR1, when you meet up with Carth at the end of the game, Revan will show up and you will get to see a hidden ending with the two of them. My brother told me about all of this AFTER he got it, so I haven't seen it myself. Does anyone know anything about it?

Second, does anyone know what happens if HK-47 meets up with one of his clones? They make such a big fuss out of it (and finding the signal) yet I've never been able to get them to meet face to face.

Third, when on Oneradon, I played as a dark side character and before attacking Queen Talia's palace, I had the option to demand custody of any "force sensitives" that we found. Does anyone know anything about that?

Fourth, does anyone know the way you get Visas to take off her hood, and how to see her masters face without the mask? (I'm told he's really weird looking)

Fifth, and finally, does anyone know how to find out what happened to Juhani, Mission, and her wookie friend? (I found out about everyone else already)

Thank you very much for ANY help at all you can give, I really appriciate it. If anyone has any questions I'd be happy to answer.

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Posted 29 May 2005 - 10:35 PM

All these things sound like the unconfirmed rumours that people post on cheat/guide sites in the hope that someone will try it. I personally think that if Obsidian didnt have enough time to finish the game properly as it is they arent likely to have included easter eggs like the first one you refer to (especially as it would contradict a lot of the story.) I dont think there is any way to make HK-47 meet up with his clones (I assume youre talking about the HK-50s) as you dont get the parts untill after youve destroyed them (dont you get a part for him off them?) I dont think there is any way to see Nihilus without his mask as he evaporates after you defeat him, although it may be possible to have Visas remove her hood, I dont think it is likely though. Im not sure about Juhani, Mission and Zaalbar although I do remember hearing somewhere, Ill have a look and see what I can tell you.
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Posted 29 May 2005 - 11:43 PM

all rumors. sorry, but none of them are least bit familiar, and i've read dsimpson guide and cheat book by prima.

the mission with hk 47 was deleted by obsidian. you can download a version from action replay, for xbox and there is a project to put all the deleted quests back, but its not been released yet. :(
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Posted 30 May 2005 - 12:03 AM

First of all, I heard that once you beat all of the planets (before going to the jedi enclave to meet the masters) there is a "shady figure" that randomly appears on one of the planets for a few moments at a time. If you talk to this person, they will sell you a bomb strong enough to open up one of the tombs on Korriban. Upon entering the tomb, you find Revan, and they give you some items. Afterwards, if you played as a lightside character in KOTOR1, when you meet up with Carth at the end of the game, Revan will show up and you will get to see a hidden ending with the two of them. My brother told me about all of this AFTER he got it, so I haven't seen it myself.

This is a rumor, and definitely not true. Revan won't show up anywhere (except in the tomb on Korriban, as a vision), and he has a good reason for not to do so.
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Revan traveled to participate in the coming great war, the war where the true Sith would return. He already knows that they are waiting beyond the outer rim, beyond the known borders of the galaxy, and travely there to take part. There are numerous hints on this in Kreia's talks about him, and in the end-game chats with her. The PC learns all this from Kreia, and is likely to travel there as well. Possibly a warm-up for KoToR3.

Second, does anyone know what happens if HK-47 meets up with one of his clones? They make such a big fuss out of it (and finding the signal) yet I've never been able to get them to meet face to face.

As Userunfriendly said, this part was cut from the game. Hopefully the KOTOR2 Restoration Project will add these contents.
OTOH, I have an idea, correct me if I'm wrong. You only get one part from the 3 HK50s you meet at Nar Shaddaa, and as I remember, you can get the very same part from one of the merchants as well (the droid on Onderon, or Akare on Dantooine). If this is correct, then theoretically it might be possible to have HK47 in the party where T3-M4 gets attacked by them... :unsure:

Third, when on Oneradon, I played as a dark side character and before attacking Queen Talia's palace, I had the option to demand custody of any "force sensitives" that we found. Does anyone know anything about that?

Never heard of it.

Fourth, does anyone know the way you get Visas to take off her hood, and how to see her masters face without the mask? (I'm told he's really weird looking)

First, you can get Visas to "take off her hood" and you two get the opportunity to "look at each other" if you romance her. Still, you won't be able to see her face.
As for Nihilus, you can tell Visas to take off his mask and give it to you. In this case she will look at his face (not the Exile) and will tell you about it if you ask. But again, you don't get the possibility to have a peek.

Fifth, and finally, does anyone know how to find out what happened to Juhani, Mission, and her wookie friend? (I found out about everyone else already)

Well, if you played a true (evil) Revan in KOTOR1, you might as well know their eventual fate... as for a redeemed Revan, the developers left them out from the storyline.

As for other 'secrets', I already started a topic with strange parts like the one in which GO-TO destroys Remote, or T3-M4 disables HK47 before it could unlock the Ebon Hawk's navicomputer... none of these are explained in the game.
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Posted 30 May 2005 - 01:26 AM

I'm pretty sure that the part you pick up from the 3 hk-50 droids is not duplicated anywhere else in the game, so it should be impossible to make hk 47 before nar shadda. :P
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Posted 30 May 2005 - 01:32 AM

Yeh, I suspected as much.
Anyway, it was worth a try. :)
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Posted 30 May 2005 - 12:53 PM

Thank you guys for your help!

I finished making HK-47 before I finished Nar Shadda, but he still never came into contact with one of his clones. How depressing :\, I didn't know that they has just cut it out of the game. They should have taken more time on it. For those that have trouble assembling him, I can tell you how to get him before the end of Nar Shadda if you like.

As for the hidden ending being a rumor (POSSIBLE SPOILERS?) I know that it's not. <i>I've seen parts of it.</i> Thats not what I wanted to know. I wanted to know if anyone knows how to get it because my brother forgot. If you guys want to know the ending, I can tell you. It's terribly depressing. Yes I'm aware of the fact that it's hinted that Revan is on the outer rims of the galaxy, and it ties into the ending. If anyone wants to know how this all works out just let me know.

Now this part I don't know if it's true or not, but I heard that you can find Juhani's parents and if you played as a light side character Mission makes an appearance. As for GO-TO and the remote battling it out at the end of the game, the only real explanation there is, is that if you're good the remote wins, if you're evil, it doesn't.

That all said and done, if anyone knows any "secrets" or "easter eggs" in the game this would be a good place to share :) Thanks agan for the help.

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Posted 30 May 2005 - 12:55 PM

Oops the last post was me hehe

Oh before I forget, has anyone else put the extra piece you get on Narshadda into HK-47 after you assemble him? It's hilarious!

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Posted 30 May 2005 - 01:26 PM

As for the hidden ending being a rumor (POSSIBLE SPOILERS?) I know that it's not. <i>I've seen parts of it.</i>

Where exactly, if I may ask you?
If it truly exists, the video file should be there in the game's folders.

If you guys want to know the ending, I can tell you. It's terribly depressing. Yes I'm aware of the fact that it's hinted that Revan is on the outer rims of the galaxy, and it ties into the ending. If anyone wants to know how this all works out just let me know.

I'm interested, though I still don't know how the required files just disappeared from the game directories... ;)

Now this part I don't know if it's true or not, but I heard that you can find Juhani's parents and if you played as a light side character Mission makes an appearance

I'm pretty sure that Juhani's father dies on Taris. This is explained in KoToR.

As for GO-TO and the remote battling it out at the end of the game, the only real explanation there is, is that if you're good the remote wins, if you're evil, it doesn't.

No, you don't understand - the cutscene I'm talking about is not the one where GO-TO corners Remote in the buried Republic ship on Malachor V. It happens on the Ebon Hawk.
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Posted 30 May 2005 - 01:27 PM

Oh before I forget, has anyone else put the extra piece you get on Narshadda into HK-47 after you assemble him? It's hilarious!

Yeh, that results in one of the funniest dialogues in KoToR2... :D
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Posted 30 May 2005 - 02:51 PM

you can download some people's attempts to restore

the droid planet
hk's solo mission

from the action replay site...

http://us.codejunkie...cr...=$&r=0&l=1

but it must be xbox, and you have to buy action replay...

quite frankly, they're amateur efforts, lots of badly done triggers and spawn points, and general impression of sloppy modding... :(
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Posted 30 May 2005 - 07:42 PM

Where exactly, if I may ask you?


In game on XBOX


I'm interested, though I still don't know how the required files just disappeared from the game directories...


For those that don't want to know about the hidden (pre) ending, DO NOT READ ON! THERE ARE SPOILERS!

So, to condense this as much as I can, in order to even get the ending, you have to have told Atton Revan was a light sided character, otherwise Carth is not there. Second, you have to find the bomb dealer to open one of the four tombs on Korriban, and find Revan. At the end of the game, beore you go to Malachor V, you'll run into Carth and Bastilla.

If you played as a male character in your previous game (it actually takes save files from the last game so it's your character- otherwise it makes one up) Instead of Revan being there, you find a datapad written by Zalbarr, talking about how he went away with Revan due to his life debt, and he saw Revan die on the battlefeild. You give this to Carth, and you recieve Revan's lightsaber. Carth had been training with it ever since Zalbarr had given it to him.

If you played as a female character, in the tomb you meet up with Revan, and say that you thought she was on the outer rims, and she states thats were she was, and she came back to see an old friend. Upon seeing Carth, Revan shows up, much to Carth's surprise, and they embrace. Revan apologises for being gone so long, and they go away together in a ship.

There you have it guys. I'm working on getting the ending right now so I'll get some screen shots if I can.

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Posted 30 May 2005 - 09:58 PM

I'm eagerly waiting for those screenshots. ;)
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Posted 30 May 2005 - 10:19 PM

Revan died/returned? Now, that's an ending I completely missed. Strange. I love to see any screenshots too.

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 12:04 AM

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hmmm...i've been browsing the obsidian spoilers forum for months, and I've read about all the alternate endings, and i've never ever heard of them... :(

have you got a link to where this information comes from? :blink:

here's all the cut content known to the restoration project...

http://tubertarian.c...singcontent.php

http://forums.obsidi...showtopic=30726

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 12:22 AM

I still think that it never existed in the PC version, though I don't know about the xbox edition.
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Posted 31 May 2005 - 12:57 AM

I still think that it never existed in the PC version, though I don't know about the xbox edition.

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there is no cut scenes in the pc version...all the cut scenes in the game are in the first release version, which is xbox...they snipped out all the cut content in the pc version... <_<
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Posted 31 May 2005 - 02:45 AM

That would explain things, yes.
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Posted 24 June 2005 - 12:46 AM

i've been here before! :D

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Posted 24 June 2005 - 01:05 AM

i've been here before!

Hmm? :mellow:
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