Would it be possible to make a bg1tutu + SoA + ToB mod that makes the game consider all NPCs as being in your party for the purposes of banter and dialogue interjections?
I.E. you'd be able to see every nook and cranny of the entire game's story regardless of which NPCs were in your party for actual play.
enabling all NPC banter & dialogues
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, Jun 20 2005 11:12 PM
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Posted 21 June 2005 - 07:12 AM
It is not especially possible given how the game's dialogue system works, no. I wouldn't put it past somebody to rig up some amazingly weird way that would stick all of the incidental banter into the PLAYER1.DLG (the dialogue file used by the PC) but I wouldn't envy that task.
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Posted 21 June 2005 - 07:22 AM
Change all instances of "InParty" with instances of "InMyArea", and then make all the NPCs follow you wherever you go, except when, and invent a way to spare those cases when you need the guy to really be InParty 
Or, hack the bgmain.exe and allow a party of 40...
Or, bugger Avenger so that GemRB will allow a party of 40...
Or, study a form of real-life TimeStop which'll allow you to play 8 games at the same time
Or, hack the bgmain.exe and allow a party of 40...
Or, bugger Avenger so that GemRB will allow a party of 40...
Or, study a form of real-life TimeStop which'll allow you to play 8 games at the same time
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Posted 21 June 2005 - 08:18 AM
Or, bugger Avenger so that GemRB will allow a party of 40...
I think (hope??) you mean "bug" avenger
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Posted 21 June 2005 - 08:22 AM
Being an ESL is no fun 
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Posted 21 June 2005 - 09:21 AM
English Second Language - ™ SConrad.
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Posted 21 June 2005 - 09:34 AM
Ah, OK
And I agree with your conclusion - having every party member follow you around would be a lot more effort than it would be worth...
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And I agree with your conclusion - having every party member follow you around would be a lot more effort than it would be worth...
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Posted 21 June 2005 - 11:14 AM
What would happen if you changed all instances of InParty to evaluate as true?Change all instances of "InParty" with instances of "InMyArea",
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Posted 21 June 2005 - 11:17 AM
If you try to direct a dialogue to an actor who is dead or not in the area, the dialogue chain interrupts - and this is bad.
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Posted 21 June 2005 - 11:30 AM
The term "ESL" considerably predates SConrad and any usage he might make of it.
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Posted 21 June 2005 - 11:35 AM
How about creating a 'generic Male NPC' X and a 'generic Female NPC' Z. Then copy all the male dialogue strings to NPC X and all female dialogue strings to NPC Z. Obviously prefix the strings names from different NPCs to preserve the connections between the strings and voila! All that banter and only 2 NPCs. *Giggles*
Edited by Ashara, 21 June 2005 - 11:35 AM.
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Posted 21 June 2005 - 11:59 AM
Even so, there are several dialogues where, say, Minsc, Jaheira, and Imoen have an interject and the dialogue is coded to take only the first valid interject and move on. I.e. if Minsc is there, he gets the line, if not, then Jaheira has a line, etc., meaning you'll only see Imoen's line if Minsc and Jaheira aren't there.
You could try the Valen/Solaufein-Style Interjections and Alter HP Triggers for NPC Wounded Dialogues components from G3 Tweaks. They won't turn everything on, but you'll get a lot more content from your party.
You could try the Valen/Solaufein-Style Interjections and Alter HP Triggers for NPC Wounded Dialogues components from G3 Tweaks. They won't turn everything on, but you'll get a lot more content from your party.
Edited by CamDawg, 21 June 2005 - 11:59 AM.
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Posted 23 June 2005 - 02:20 PM
Yeah, it's not my invention.The term "ESL" considerably predates SConrad and any usage he might make of it.
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Posted 25 June 2005 - 11:27 PM
This actually happened to me one time, when I had TDD installed. I had Jaheira in my party (briefly) before kicking her out, and whenever I went to the docks, she continued the lovetalks though she wasn't in the party. That was kinda interesting. Maybe something like that would work?
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Posted 26 June 2005 - 12:13 AM
I don't have TDD installed, and I too dropped Jaheira from my party. I eventually had to pass by her on my way to finish a quest, and the same happened to me... she started spouting her LT lines.This actually happened to me one time, when I had TDD installed. I had Jaheira in my party (briefly) before kicking her out, and whenever I went to the docks, she continued the lovetalks though she wasn't in the party. That was kinda interesting. Maybe something like that would work?
