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[Grunker]

In the last 'couple o' months, we've been talking alot about how to redeem a failing RPG-genre. Action-RPG sells better, so they are produced. This greatly annoys me and probably many others, as action-RPG rarely is anyhting else than 3rd person-shooter with swords and shields.

Well, I think the next couple of years may, if they don't redeem the genre entire, provide us with some of the great RPG that we've been missing for so long. Neverwinter Nights II is coming, Dragon Age is at hand, and fans of ultra-non-linearity (which I ain't, but by god, let them have their fun) have been playing Oblivion for one or two months now. I can't believe why I haven't noticed this before, but apparently CDProjekt is producing a game called 'The Witcher', which may be good news for many of us. Check it out:

www.thewitcher.com

Also, for the ones who are afraid that this will be yet another Diablo/Neverwinter Nights: The Witcher will have dialogue, and story-based gameplay, with as much non-linearity as it can have without turning into The Elder Scrolls.

Something else, that sound very good indeed:

We have always wanted to create a game for mature gamers. A game which, although filled with mysterious intrigues, unworldly monsters and magic, would at the same time be devoid of naiveté and therefore very real. That is why we decided to leave all the high fantasy, fairy-tale worlds like Forgotten Realms behind-- aiming at a world where all the fantasy elements would exist, yet without the feeling of superficiality. And that is mainly what we believe mature players expect us to do--a somewhat familiar surrounding with a flesh-and-bone touch to it. In The Witcher, we are not going to avoid any moral issues, be it violence, eroticism, harsh language or stimulants like alcohol or potions, which by the way work similarly (especially those witcher-made) to drugs, devastating the organism.

Just though I'd bring it to everyone's attention

PS. It may not be news for you, but it was for me, and as I found nothing on the site that mentioned it, I did

[Korbu]

In the last 'couple o' months, we've been talking alot about how to redeem a failing RPG-genre. Action-RPG sells better, so they are produced. This greatly annoys me and probably many others, as action-RPG rarely is anyhting else than 3rd person-shooter with swords and shields.

Well, I think the next couple of years may, if they don't redeem the genre entire, provide us with some of the great RPG that we've been missing for so long. Neverwinter Nights II is coming, Dragon Age is at hand, and fans of ultra-non-linearity (which I ain't, but by god, let them have their fun) have been playing Oblivion for one or two months now. I can't believe why I haven't noticed this before, but apparently CDProjekt is producing a game called 'The Witcher', which may be good news for many of us. Check it out:

www.thewitcher.com

Also, for the ones who are afraid that this will be yet another Diablo/Neverwinter Nights: The Witcher will have dialogue, and story-based gameplay, with as much non-linearity as it can have without turning into The Elder Scrolls.

Something else, that sound very good indeed:

We have always wanted to create a game for mature gamers. A game which, although filled with mysterious intrigues, unworldly monsters and magic, would at the same time be devoid of naiveté and therefore very real. That is why we decided to leave all the high fantasy, fairy-tale worlds like Forgotten Realms behind-- aiming at a world where all the fantasy elements would exist, yet without the feeling of superficiality. And that is mainly what we believe mature players expect us to do--a somewhat familiar surrounding with a flesh-and-bone touch to it. In The Witcher, we are not going to avoid any moral issues, be it violence, eroticism, harsh language or stimulants like alcohol or potions, which by the way work similarly (especially those witcher-made) to drugs, devastating the organism.

Just though I'd bring it to everyone's attention

PS. It may not be news for you, but it was for me, and as I found nothing on the site that mentioned it, I did

Whats wrong with The Elder Scrolls, then again Whats right with it.

U r right there is a lack of decent rpgs

[Grunker]

The Elder Scrolls was included in our discussion, but alas, I can't remeber the exact thread.

As with what I think is wrong with the games, it's that IMHO, Elder Scrolls is not an RPG, because your character is limited to standard dialogue or no dialogue at all.

[NiGHTMARE]

In that case, probably the majority of games commonly considered to be RPGs are disqualified as RPGS, even classics of the genre such as the Ultima series .

[Grunker]

In that case, probably the majority of games commonly considered to be RPGs are disqualified as RPGS, even classics of the genre such as the Ultima series .

I did say it was personal opinion, and you are correct, I do not consider most of those games true roleplaying games. At best, they try to emulate a roleplaying experience

But, it might as well be me who lacks the sufficient imagination to play those games a roleplaying games.

[Korbu]

Its a shame that Black Isle and Interplay went bust

No Baldur's Gate III

Baldur's Gate is ultimately the best RPG

[Grunker]

Its a shame that Black Isle and Interplay went bust

No Baldur's Gate III

Baldur's Gate is ultimately the best RPG

Actually, BGIII is supposedly in development.

Check this thread.

EDIT: Although, in reality, Planescape: Torment is the best RPG

Edited by Grunker, 20 January 2007 - 08:34 AM.

[zachD]

What is interesting to me is that although Black Isles and Interplay went bust, BG lives on and has continued to grow as a phenomenon unto itself - or so it seems to me, despite its relatively primitive graphics as compared to more recent *rpgs*. I played BGII when it originally came out years ago but was totally unaware of the modder community (and mods) until years later, after coming back to the game for another pass. And I was blown away by the amount of mods/player made material that I found. Surely that is testament to how much people enjoyed BG.

No idea if there is as much to find for the Planescape:Torment game. But it seems clear that people simply could not get enough of the BG experience.

What I would like to see from a BGIII would be something with the graphics/atmosphere of The Witcher but set up like the original BG in terms of a truely indepth non linear RPG party-based experience. And yeah probably not going to happen.