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[Lysan Lurraxol]

I think this may be a bug, but if so, it's a strange one.

Some of the NPCs have green skin, so far I've noticed Falastra, Rihn and Althon have a rather hideous complexion. It's not game breaking, just a little annoying. I'm not sure if this is caused by Classic Adventures or 1PP.
I have Classic Adventures 0.41a installed.

BTW, Is Shadow supposed to have the portrait for her that's displayed on the CA website?

Thanks

[leahnkain]

Strange, could you post a screenshot? When I made their cre files they definately didn't have green skin. I have always used 1PP, so I don't think that is the problem. The homepage has her first picture still up, we frgot to update this. I will ask Celestine to add her new picture. Thanks! BTW welcome to Spellhold. It is nice to see you are now a member!

[Lysan Lurraxol]

I've taken a few screenshots.

 Baldr000.bmp   900.05K   355 downloads

Thanks for the welcome,

Edited by Lysan Lurraxol, 28 August 2007 - 03:43 AM.

[Sir BillyBob]

Hate to state the obvious but that would be your computer doing this. It isn't your monitor since the screen capture would grab what is being displayed by the video card, and not what the pixel lights on the screen are doing. So maybe you should adjust your gamma settings or some other brightness/color settings. Green? Interesting because I usually get a strange orange cast to some characters.

BTW, I use a Sony 19 inch flat panel and it definitely displays the BG games differently than my laptop. So some color/brightness/contrast issues are going to be with each monitor. But sometimes it is also the video card.

[Lysan Lurraxol]

Ah, thank you

The computer I'm playing CA on is not my personal computer, so I don't know the settings, so you're probably right.
I'm moving CA to my personal computer later this week, so I'll tell you if the problem stops. It just seems strange that it only affects certain characters.

Thanks

[leahnkain]

I made the cre files for that batch of NPC's on my Viao,but laptop monitors are terrible, I am currently using a Toshiba Portege R400-S4933.(It's nice, I strongly recommend) On both computers they looked fine, but both are laptops. Thanks for clearing this up Sir BillyBob.

[Mayro]

The same "problem", for calling it that, happened to me with Falastra's, Rihn's and Althon's skin. It vas greenish (not orcish green but greenish). I didn't give it any importance, I thought that it was normal. Don't know the exact model of video card that I have. I have a flat monitor and I had only installed 1pp apart from the mod and it's patches.

Only my two cents here, the mods is the best ever so I don't personally care about skin color. I just want to play more modules!!!

[Sir BillyBob]

Even if it is the color setting for skin (which is not always "pink/flesh" for everyone), the colors would be consistant for every player. Any differences between what you see and what I see would then have to be attributed to color settings somewhere on your computer. Whether it is in the game's graphic settings, your number of colors on the desktop, or your hardware. Otherwise, everyone would see the same the exact same color. I have yet to see anyone look "green" in my game except for half-orcs that I deliberately set the skin color to a green shade.

Some of our NPCs have a more bronze coloring (representing darker skin or very tanned). Rivian should be very light colored being a moon elf. Some of the other elves are probably also done this way, I can't remember now. Also, some of the CRE files were actually made in IWD and then ported over to BG. So unless the problem comes from there...

[leahnkain]

Althon, Falastra and rihn all have the same skin and hair color. I made the using a Japanese version of BG2, I think you might changed my cre file when I sent them to you but you never have edited the colors I used. I don't think the three in question were ever been created in IWD by you. The should have a tan. It looks broze on my computer. This is strange.

[Sir BillyBob]

Okay, I did a quick check through some of the CRE files. The three in question, Althon, Fala'stra, and Rihn all use the same skin color, 16 - Silverish Gold.

So... I have to assume that color doesn't come out well on some monitors. Or, if everyone seeing this problem is using 1PP, than I can blame that except as far as I know, the avatars and paperdolls should just be showing the colors defined by the player or CRE. They wouldn't use their own pallete that I know of.

Aesdale: 12 - Carnation Pink
Althon: 16 - Silverish Gold
Blodgett: 8 - Dark Muddy Brown
Blush: 84 - Peach
Dirbert: 9 - Light Muddy Brown
Fala'stra: 16 - Silverish Gold
Icar: 114 - Yet Another Brown (who comes up with these names??)
Rihn: 16 - Silverish Gold
Rilithar: 12 - Carnation Pink

So I guess I will see if another color works and try to avoid 16. It doesn't look green on my screen but I know that my Sony monitor doesn't display all colors the way I would like (just using the defaults). I have had problems with different shades of black for map areas that my laptop has displayed just fine for me. Any other NPCs that should get a skin tone change?

[leahnkain]

They should have a light tan. You may want to check Erky's color. I am using 1PP and I have no problems with colors. This is strange.

[Lysan Lurraxol]

I've copieed Classic Adventures across to my computer, which has a better graphics card than the one I was using, and Althon, Rihn and Falastra are still green

Could it be that the version you used to make them, leahnkain has a different colour range than the version I'm using?

[leahnkain]

It's impossible. Althon was made on a unmodded BG2. 1PP was installed. His color is tan on my computer. If this is becoming an issue for many peopel we can edit their colors to another light tan skin color.(use can always use shadowkeeper to edit the flesh color for now as a quick fix.) I am wondering though have you added any other mods which are not supported by CA. They do a lot of different things to items and such.

[Lysan Lurraxol]

Apart from 1pp, and the EoU compinents installed in CA, I haven't got any other mods installed. It's not a big thing though, and it doesn't spoil enjoyment of the mod.

Actually, aren't you playing on a Japanese version of the game? Could there be differences in the textures between the american and Japanese versions?

Edited by Lysan Lurraxol, 04 September 2007 - 02:22 AM.

[Solar's Harper]

I'd highly doubt that possibility Lysan. First you should check the settings on your computer and in the game to see about texture.

And on a second note, I do agree that Althon does look kinda odd, but one person that looked really odd was that lord that introduces him and is a corrupt scumbag, or something... I haven't gone into full detail on that noble's story yet.

He looks kinda light teal, just thought I'd ask if this is normal, as in, suitable for maybe a half-orc which strangely look nearly no different with their avatars... actually they look like humans except with the paperdolls to be honest, what the hell was Bioware thinking?

[leahnkain]

Apart from 1pp, and the EoU compinents installed in CA, I haven't got any other mods installed. It's not a big thing though, and it doesn't spoil enjoyment of the mod.

Actually, aren't you playing on a Japanese version of the game? Could there be differences in the textures between the american and Japanese versions?

The only difference between the Japanese version and the English version is the language. I have both installed. When I put Althon in either version he looks tan on my computer. I agree with Solar's Harper that bioware could have doen a lot more with the avatars. I'll bring this to Sir BillyBob's attension. I guess we can always switch the skin color.

[Sir BillyBob]

Half-orcs are very annoying in the game because of this limitation. They should be as big as their paperdoll, but Bioware didn't create an avatar for them. I have a half-orc mage coming later on that is going to look like Edwin. How stupid.

I don't have 1PP installed, so I can't match up my colors to yours. Some of these characters have been in our mod for the past 2 years and no one has ever said they had this problem. I will see about making some adjustments to these three, but their defined color is gold, not green. So I still have to say it is something on your end. Just not sure what. CRTs, flat panels, LCD, plasma, they all give off different brightness and contrast effects. So if you switch out computers but use the same monitor, the problem will still be there.

[MythrylEagle]

I had never noticed it before and it doesn't bother my gameplay at all, but after reading this series of posts I decided to check my game. There are indeed several NPC's with greenish skin tones on my older PC. Haven't checked my newer laptops. Thought I'd let you know that this long time player is experiencing the same skin tone issue.

[Jarno Mikkola]

One stupid question, have you edited your chars with ShadowKeeper? As the color change might come from there, as I have it too.
As this could be the source of the problem, the sudden change and copy/paste thing and why others do and some don't have it, at least could be explaned.

Edited by Jarno Mikkola, 04 September 2007 - 06:38 AM.