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[Daelric]

Hey guys,

Just noticed something I thought was strange... not sure if this is a bug or not.  I bought a Raise Dead scroll a while back in case I ever needed to bring back a party member when out in the field and couldn't easily get back to a temple.  Well, I had occasion to use it recently, and it doesn't work!  I have a cleric in the party (Viconia) and also Kivan, who apparently can use priest scrolls (as it is not red for him and can be put in his quickslot).  Long story short... the spell doesn't fire for either of them.  I put the scroll in one of their quickslots, click on it, the casting icon appears, I click on the portrait of the fallen comrade, and... nothing.  Is this a bug, or some weird rule or something that I'm unaware of?

Daelric

[bigmoshi]

Hey! First time I ever used the scroll haha.

Anyway, I realised that the scroll doesn't work if you are too far away from the place that he died.
Try to stand beside the spot the person died and cast that spell. Or cast the spell on the items that the NPC dropped when he/she died. Does it make sense?

Cheers

[Daelric]

Hmm... that didn't work for me, BigMoshi. It still didn't bring Dynaheir back. What's more, to I used Shadowkeeper to give Viccy some more scrolls to see what's up, and I found out something rather interesting. With the scrolls in the quickslot, this last time when I tried to bring back the dead person, the casting icon was greyed out when held over the dead character's portrait. I was only able to attempt the raising by clicking on the dead character's inventory lying on the ground... Viccy cast the spell after clicking here, but the character was still dead.

Another disturbing thing? After this, I decided to try something out quick... I used Shadowkeeper the give Viconia a couple memorizable slots of level 5 spells, added Raise Dead to her spell repertoire, and tried to raise Dynaheir that way... still didn't work! What's weird though, is that it actually brought Dynaheir back to life with 1 hp, but she was petrified! What's up with that?

Daelric

Hey! First time I ever used the scroll haha.

Anyway, I realised that the scroll doesn't work if you are too far away from the place that he died.
Try to stand beside the spot the person died and cast that spell. Or cast the spell on the items that the NPC dropped when he/she died. Does it make sense?

Cheers

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[bigmoshi]

That is really weird. Can you post me the saved game? Thanks!

UPDATE: Hey Daelric, I just installed a clean copy using the autoinstaller last night, and tried both the scroll & the spell. Can't seem to get the problem yet. I used the scroll "scrl63" and Vicky's level 5 raise dead spell. I CTRL+Y killed dynaheir and a few other npcs. Then used the spell on them but it works fine for me at the moment.

Edited by bigmoshi, 10 January 2008 - 07:46 PM.

[Daelric]

That is really weird. Can you post me the saved game? Thanks!

UPDATE: Hey Daelric, I just installed a clean copy using the autoinstaller last night, and tried both the scroll & the spell. Can't seem to get the problem yet. I used the scroll "scrl63" and Vicky's level 5 raise dead spell. I CTRL+Y killed dynaheir and a few other npcs. Then used the spell on them but it works fine for me at the moment.

Alrighty I have an update too... forget about the weird Petrification crap. I used Shadowkeeper to give Viccy the Raise Dead spell and the slot, and for some reason that must have messed up the game. Is it possible that Shadowkeeper for whatever reason might not be compatible with an SMM game?

I loaded up my savegame and did the same thing as you... I CLUA'd in some scrl63, and they still didn't work. Put 'em in the Quickslot and when I click on them, the casting icon is greyed out over the dead person's portrait, but not over their inventory... but when i click on the inventory, nothing happens after the spell completes.

In GOOD news though, instead of Shadowkeeper'ing Viccy some bonus spells, I CLUA'd her XP to 1,000,000 to get her high enough level to cast Raise Dead, and doing it that way WORKS as it's supposed to. Just really sucks that it appears the only way I can bring back dead chars before Viccy can cast is to go to a temple.

Daelric

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Edited by Daelric, 10 January 2008 - 08:58 PM.

[bigmoshi]

Actually, I used ShadowKeeper to add her raise dead skills as well. In fact, I have been using ShadowKeeper a lot for testing hehe

I'll try it and update you. Thanks!

[bigmoshi]

Yoz! Ok, managed to find the same thing as you using your game. So I tried to do a bit more testing. Here's what I found.

(a) That seems to happen when I tried to load up a saved game where the NPC was dead already. Eg. the saved game you uploaded had Dynaheir already dead. Somehow the raise dead spell (the scroll "scrl63" & the priest spell "sppr504" ) doesn't work when NPCs were dead in that saved game you are loading.

I tried killing Imoen and Minsc, saved the game and reloaded while they were dead. I couldn't revive them using the scroll or spell. In fact, the mouse cursor was greyed out when I tried to use the spell on these dead NPCs. -> same as Daelric.

(b) On the other hand, the scroll "scrl63" & the priest spell "sppr504" seemed to work fine provided I revived NPC members who just died, and didn't reload the game.

© The mass raise dead spell "sppr729" & the raise dead service provided by shops seemed to work fine.

I've not really used that scroll before this. Just wondering is the original game like that as well?

If anyone can explain this, that will be great. Meanwhile I'll modify my autoinstaller to keep track of time-stamps to try and identify the mod causing the problem.

Btw Daelric, you may want to CTRL+R Dynaheir this time round. Thanks for your help again!

Cheers!

[Ikki]

I got the same problem (raise dead scroll not working)

I solved it, by restoring the SCRL63.ITM from one of the backup folder ( the BG2_Tweaks or BG1UB backup folder, not sure )

[bigmoshi]

I got the same problem (raise dead scroll not working)

I solved it, by restoring the SCRL63.ITM from one of the backup folder ( the BG2_Tweaks or BG1UB backup folder, not sure )

Oh yah, I didn't think of that. Thanks!

[Oldwolf]

The problem appears to be with UB1 it is the first mod that I have installed after the fixpack that changes SCRL63, unfortunately I COULD NOT find a backup of SCRL63 in any of the UB1 backup folders although it is replaced per the TP2 file of UB1. I had the same problems as you had. I Restored the file from the backup of SCRL63 from the over.bak forlder of CTB and cleared up the problem.

Update the problem with the scroll is that it targets a character in the extended header instead of targeting a Dead character so if you wish to fix it without resorting to a back up just use DLTCEP, NI or what ever and change the target in the extended header of SCRL63 to "Dead Character"

Edited by Oldwolf, 18 February 2008 - 07:14 AM.