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[Szyfrant]

Hoppy, on 22 November 2010 - 01:21 PM, said:

If Tardeth or Moondrop finished their dialogs, they would have left and you wouldn't have the duplicates. I found no errors with your dialog file and it follows the same chain as mine. However, dialogs will break if the next NPC is dead or in another area, which you would know that from the design of the Co8 NPC's.

They didn't even start their dialog, that was the whole problem. The only npc that was 'dead' was the druid apprentice, turned to stone?

Hoppy, on 22 November 2010 - 01:21 PM, said:

Zannaster and the dracolich have minimum HP1 so they have to run through a cycle of scripts before they are truly killed. With Zannaster the mage, he has to go through three healing cycles before his Lich-transformation cutscene. When he is lich he will have a cutscene when he is at 1 HP and has to cast some spells or other scripted actions.

Zannaster healed 3 times, allright, but neither Dracolich scripts nor Zannaster cutscene worked. I tried few times before removing min1hp items and finally killing them. In the end, only things I did to finish the quest was: 1. Remove 1hp items, 2. Change global. When Paddy was doing her(his?) talking I went outside, and luckily party of 8 was there, another copy probably. I simply used them and changed the global to initiate ending dialog. I think it's only one case of many but I hope it'll be of any help.

Cheers.

[Hoppy]

Szyfrant, on 24 November 2010 - 01:19 PM, said:

Hoppy, on 22 November 2010 - 01:21 PM, said:

If Tardeth or Moondrop finished their dialogs, they would have left and you wouldn't have the duplicates. I found no errors with your dialog file and it follows the same chain as mine. However, dialogs will break if the next NPC is dead or in another area, which you would know that from the design of the Co8 NPC's.

They didn't even start their dialog, that was the whole problem. The only npc that was 'dead' was the druid apprentice, turned to stone?

Hoppy, on 22 November 2010 - 01:21 PM, said:

Zannaster and the dracolich have minimum HP1 so they have to run through a cycle of scripts before they are truly killed. With Zannaster the mage, he has to go through three healing cycles before his Lich-transformation cutscene. When he is lich he will have a cutscene when he is at 1 HP and has to cast some spells or other scripted actions.

Zannaster healed 3 times, allright, but neither Dracolich scripts nor Zannaster cutscene worked. I tried few times before removing min1hp items and finally killing them. In the end, only things I did to finish the quest was: 1. Remove 1hp items, 2. Change global. When Paddy was doing her(his?) talking I went outside, and luckily party of 8 was there, another copy probably. I simply used them and changed the global to initiate ending dialog. I think it's only one case of many but I hope it'll be of any help.

Cheers.

There are a lot of things going wrong here and this is a first. When Zannaster is down to 1hp and has done his healing routines, then he starts a dialog changing him to lich. This sounds like it happened so the mage is not the problem. When he finishes the dialog, the global is set for this to happen, the lich cutscene transformation:

IF
	Global("CbZannasterFinallyChanging","AR3532",2)
	Global("Cb_ZannasterCutFix","AR3532",0)
THEN
	RESPONSE #100
		ClearAllActions()
		SetGlobal("Cb_ZannasterCutFix","AR3532",1)
		StartCutSceneMode()
		StartCutScene("CBC8ZCHG")
END

Actually that cutscene was scripted twice but only worked here for me, thus the fix. When the lich is at 1HP and the previous global was set (above) the second cutscene occurs in CBC8CTZL.BCS and he will destroy his MINHP1 item or IMOENHP1 (Immy's belt). Noone physically kills the lich, it is done in the cutscene.

It sounds like things go wrong after the mage's dialog and he turns to lich but the scripts don't work which was the original problem. I guess it is eternally phoqued.

[Hoppy]

[quote name='Hoppy' date='24 November 2010 - 09:10 PM' timestamp='1290661849' post='501473']
[quote name='Szyfrant' date='24 November 2010 - 01:19 PM' timestamp='1290633595' post='501453']
[quote name='Hoppy' date='23 November 2010 - 12:21 AM' timestamp='1290460910' post='501381']
If Tardeth or Moondrop finished their dialogs, they would have left and you wouldn't have the duplicates. I found no errors with your dialog file and it follows the same chain as mine. However, dialogs will break if the next NPC is dead or in another area, which you would know that from the design of the Co8 NPC's.[/quote]

They didn't even start their dialog, that was the whole problem. The only npc that was 'dead' was the druid apprentice, turned to stone?

[quote name='Hoppy' date='23 November 2010 - 12:21 AM' timestamp='1290460910' post='501381']
Zannaster and the dracolich have minimum HP1 so they have to run through a cycle of scripts before they are truly killed. With Zannaster the mage, he has to go through three healing cycles before his Lich-transformation cutscene. When he is lich he will have a cutscene when he is at 1 HP and has to cast some spells or other scripted actions. [/quote]

Zannaster healed 3 times, allright, but neither Dracolich scripts nor Zannaster cutscene worked. I tried few times before removing min1hp items and finally killing them. In the end, only things I did to finish the quest was: 1. Remove 1hp items, 2. Change global. When Paddy was doing her(his?) talking I went outside, and luckily party of 8 was there, another copy probably. I simply used them and changed the global to initiate ending dialog. I think it's only one case of many but I hope it'll be of any help.

Cheers.
[/quote]

There are a lot of things going wrong here and this is not a first. When Zannaster is down to 1hp and has done his healing routines, he starts a dialog changing him to lich. This sounds like it happened so the mage is not the problem. When he finishes the dialog, the global is set for this to happen, the lich cutscene transformation in CBC8CTZL.BCS:



Actually that cutscene was scripted twice but only worked here for me, thus the fix. When the lich is at 1HP and the previous global was set (above) the second cutscene occurs in CBC8CTZL.BCS and he will destroy his MINHP1 item or IMOENHP1 (Immy's belt). Noone physically kills the lich, it is done in the cutscene.

It sounds like things go wrong after the mage's dialog and he turns to lich but the script funtions aren't working which was the original problem. I guess it is eternally phoqued.

[Power2the1]

Hey dev team, I am enjoying this mod compilation very, very much. I've only had a few crashes in 157 days, so that great. So far, I have not had any hiccups while playing except one.

The mission is where your party has teamed up with the Adventurers of Eight seems fine for me at least, but that dracolich is invincible. I mean I have multiple devas and planetars, elemental princes, and high hit die summoned creatures continually being replaced after they die or duration is up, we're all using powerful casting, +1-5 weaponry, and both parties wailing away non-stop at this dracolich, and he hovers at the Near Death status forever. I would guess that I have done upwards of 1-2000 damage in the course of each fight on it before it kills us all or I give up and try again.

Seems like other are having issues too. Just wanted to share what I've had occur.

Edited by Power2the1, 28 November 2010 - 07:02 PM.

[Hoppy]

Power2the1, on 28 November 2010 - 07:01 PM, said:

Hey dev team, I am enjoying this mod compilation very, very much. I've only had a few crashes in 157 days, so that great. So far, I have not had any hiccups while playing except one.

The mission is where your party has teamed up with the Adventurers of Eight seems fine for me at least, but that dracolich is invincible. I mean I have multiple devas and planetars, elemental princes, and high hit die summoned creatures continually being replaced after they die or duration is up, we're all using powerful casting, +1-5 weaponry, and both parties wailing away non-stop at this dracolich, and he hovers at the Near Death status forever. I would guess that I have done upwards of 1-2000 damage in the course of each fight on it before it kills us all or I give up and try again.

Seems like other are having issues too. Just wanted to share what I've had occur.

When I updated CtB last time to 1.12, I did not thoroughly check the creature fixes that Scud gave me. One of these "fixes" adds an item to the dragon that was not there previously. This is BHAALHP1.ITM and can be found in the current creature file and should not have been placed there.

So... I will post the old file from the earliest CtB versions that was not f****ed but to use it you will have to load a save prior to entering that area where the dracolich is. Just place the file in the override folder and overwrite if necessary.

If you want to try and edit CBC8CTD3.CRE using NEar Infinity or DLTECEP, remove the BHAALHP1.ITM in the gloves slot.


 cbc8ctd3.cre   3.34K   75 downloads


EDIT: Since it is important for this dragon to have protection from timestop, I am going to try to incorporate a better fixed creature (one that has the enhancements I added) in CtB1.13 at BWL and TEamBG for now so it might be ready to go with all downloads after today at the aforementioned DL sites. If someone can let me know if the file isn't updated then i might have to have admin update it.

EDIT 2: Confirmed correct creature at TeamBG in its CtB 1.13. Give it a wee bit of time for BWL to update as I had to upload a fresh one.


EDIT 3: Sorry about all the confusion if I didn't understand what was going on with this quest. Since the creature restructure edits I received tend to cause more problems and break things that I fix, I won't include them for any other updates. No offense intended to anyone trying to help but it is frustrating to spend a lot of time on this stuff and having these errors keep me from moving on to another mod to update.

This was my last CtB update, this I know

Edited by Hoppy, 28 November 2010 - 10:14 PM.

[Helborn]

incorrect post

Edited by Helborn, 01 December 2010 - 04:05 PM.