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[Nix]

So as I understand it this ruleset allows character progression to level 50, but for some reason they can't go past 41 in my game. When they hit level 41 the next level experience metre goes to -1. Does anyone have this problem? Maybe conflict with other mods?

Weidu log for reference:

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[Azazello]

One of the mods has booted the BP level rules. Do a search on your entire game folder, search for xplevel*.2da and will list all mods that potentially have altered the rules.

Report all mods that has one of those files in its Backup folder.

Edited by Azazello, 22 March 2008 - 06:02 PM.

[Nix]

Well none of them have the file in their backup folders, but BG2 Tweaks has xplevel, xplevel20, and xplevel30 in its 2da folder. SOS has xplevel in a folder called over.bak.

[Azazello]

BG2 Tweaks is normal and not the problem. SoS is ok if you installed BP after SoS.

Do the search again, which folders contains the most recent changes to xplevel*.2da files?

[Nix]

Er... how do you search for most recent changes? Is it the date modified? If so the SOS one seems to be the most recently modified.

[Azazello]

Yes, date-modified is the way.

You can copy a xplevel.2da that goes to level 50 into the override. First, if there's a file already in override, open it with a text editor and ensure it only goes to 40. Then look at an earlier xplevel.2da versions until you find a 50 one, then copy that into override.

Then go into the save just before the character(s) level up and see what happens.

[Nix]

I pulled the xplevel file from TDD and dropped it into the override folder and it worked. There wasn't an xplevel file in the override folder before and there wasn't one in the BP folder either. I guess somehow BP was missing the file and so the level 50 ruleset didn't get installed? It works fine now so thanks very much for all your help.

[erebusant]

I pulled the xplevel file from TDD and dropped it into the override folder and it worked. There wasn't an xplevel file in the override folder before and there wasn't one in the BP folder either. I guess somehow BP was missing the file and so the level 50 ruleset didn't get installed? It works fine now so thanks very much for all your help.

BP installs level 50 rules via code in the .tp2 only if you do not have TDD or RoT installed.

[Nix]

Ah, got it. I don't have TDD or RoT installed though so it still doesn't explain why the ruleset didn't install properly.

[Azazello]

I pulled the xplevel file from TDD and dropped it into the override folder and it worked. There wasn't an xplevel file in the override folder before and there wasn't one in the BP folder either. I guess somehow BP was missing the file and so the level 50 ruleset didn't get installed? It works fine now so thanks very much for all your help.

BP installs level 50 rules via code in the .tp2 only if you do not have TDD or RoT installed.

I'm not near the game but maybe BP looks for the presence of TDD or RoT, not just if they're installed.

[Nix]

Hmm, I guess that would explain it. Seems a bit strange to me though, and BP did say it was installing the ruleset... it didn't say skipping this component or anything like that.

[erebusant]

Hmm, I guess that would explain it. Seems a bit strange to me though, and BP did say it was installing the ruleset... it didn't say skipping this component or anything like that.

perhaps one of the mods you installed after BP changed them again?

[Azazello]

I'll check the BP code to see what the conditions are for installing, or not, the ruleset. This weekend. Maybe. I hope.

[erebusant]

I'll check the BP code to see what the conditions are for installing, or not, the ruleset. This weekend. Maybe. I hope.

He's got level 50 in his WeiDu log, so BP installed it. BP is looking for bifs that TDD and RoT create during install to determine if it will install level 50 or not. Either it didn't work, or some mod he installed after BP overwrote it.

[Sergio]

May I ask why would I want level 50, instead of just a level cap removal? Is level 50 the max level you should be able to achieve for a "balanced" game?

[The Imp]

May I ask why would I want level 50, instead of just a level cap removal? Is level 50 the max level you should be able to achieve for a "balanced" game?

Well, there's no level cap removal as a thing. There's the XP cap removal, but without the level 50 rulesets that has a bad side effect that makes your character loose all their spells and saves go to 1 and so forth at level 41 by default.
The level 50 rules allow your to actually gather as much XP(the cap is -1, or technically ~4 294 967 295) as you wish and actually have the all the possible 3 multi-classes to be at level 50 and still have never getting close to the level 51 which will do the loosing of spells etc bad thing for everyone except the fighter.

[Sergio]

May I ask why would I want level 50, instead of just a level cap removal? Is level 50 the max level you should be able to achieve for a "balanced" game?

Well, there's no level cap removal as a thing. There's the XP cap removal, but without the level 50 rulesets that has a bad side effect that makes your character loose all their spells and saves go to 1 and so forth at level 41 by default.
The level 50 rules allow your to actually gather as much XP(the cap is -1, or technically ~4 294 967 295) as you wish and actually have the all the possible 3 multi-classes to be at level 50 and still have never getting close to the level 51 which will do the loosing of spells etc bad thing for everyone except the fighter.

thanks.