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[Klorox]

I happen to agree with you.


My reasons for liking 4 person groups is that I just find it easier to control (I hate AI). I have a more fun experience. the fact that XP is gained faster is just a side benefit.

Another great thing about smaller parties is that multiclasses are even better also. I'm actually not a big fan of Edwin or other single-classed guys in a smaller group. You just don't need them.

I consider Imoen a single classed mage for my groups, who also handles all of the thieving duties. Im my last game, I had her, Anomen, and a Berserker 13 dualled into a Mage (who concentrated on spells that boosted combat abilities).

The party rocked the casbah.



BTW, the fact that you compare anything in BG to Pokemon just makes everything else suck. Nevermind.

[Sammi Somara]

Meh. I like bigger groups. More character interaction.

Besides, I like all the characters, I wanna have as many of em with me as possible.

[Gabrielle]

I like big groups. Someone has to soak up the damage in a fight and carry all of my loot.

[Jarno Mikkola]

Someone has to soak up the damage in a fight and carry all of my loot.

But can't you just CLUA yourself the item numbers bag04, ring31 and you'll be set...

But I too would like big groups, like 8 or more.

[Scipio]

The reason I love BG/BG2 and their predecessors is the number of people you can have in a party. I'd rather level up more slowly but have six in the gang. It's also the reason I can't get into NWN.

But now that you've described the fun of having a trio, what would you recommend as a first-time trio? I'll just have to try it, maybe even by resorting to multi-party saved into single player mode to get the classes, skills and stats for maximum clobbering. It would help to know what set of three characters may just get their butts kicked out of Amn before they even reach the Copper Coronet.

I was thinking of a thief dualed to fighter, a fighter dualed to cleric and a sorcerer who should be able to blam out spells at level 15 before we've left D'Arnise Hold, maybe? The thief can dual immediately because all he/she needs the thieving for is to find traps and disarm them or open locks, which a starter-thief does easily in BG2. The fighter-cleric would also level up quickly because he/she would also dual immediately, but with five slots for Crom Faeyr.

Or maybe a thief-fighter, a cleric-mage and the third place open for all the sub-quests, and later for Immy, perhaps.

[Manascyth]

^With the fast level progression with a three member party, especially if you have a mega install, you can pull off triple classes without much problem. But before I go further: Do you have any class altering mods installed?

[Scipio]

^With the fast level progression with a three member party, especially if you have a mega install, you can pull off triple classes without much problem. But before I go further: Do you have any class altering mods installed?

Now that you mention it, I downloaded Level 1 NPCs but I haven't used it yet. I have also previously played The Darkest Day, which offers all those additional classes, or is that not the same as class altering? I suppose I could change a lot of stuff in Shadowkeeper as well. I currently use SK to give Imoen a bit more than her ridiculously low strength, but just about nothing else.

It would be great to select the classes I need for some of the NPCs instead of generating my own complete party that never exchange a single word until you kick one out.

[Jarno Mikkola]

I have also previously played The Darkest Day, which offers all those additional classes, or is that not the same as class altering?

Well, technically the class altering mod is one that alters the class restrictions and rules of the game. Such as Allowing all classes to use whatever weapon they wish if they are strong enough(Ashes to Embers, Level 1 NPCs, BG2Tweakpack ) armor restrictions like mages able to cast spells in heavy armor with spell failure rate, new and different spell selection (and additional kits) for clerics(divine remix) etc. many many more.

[Klorox]

Whats RING31?

[Jarno Mikkola]

Whats RING31?

Of regeneration, what else could it be.

[Klorox]

Cool.

I remember playing a game with a Dwarf F/T, taking only Anomen and Kelsey. That was another ass-kickin' small party. The game got too easy too fast.


EDIT: I just realized this party I played a long time ago is very similar in concept to Pokemon boys. Neat!

Edited by Klorox, 10 April 2008 - 03:43 AM.

[Zyraen]

I tend to go to extremes. Usually I have 6 man parties ; or I have a Solo.

Most of my double or trio parties start out fine but I get tired of them very quickly.
From experience though, until you have infinite shooting weapons its very hard to manage 6, I generally try not to have more than 3 melee characters in my party (except at the beginning of the game, of course, where they're all weak)

If you have good weaponry (no issues about Enemy being Immune to Weapon) and infinite ammo and decent AC/Thac0 on EVERY SINGLE character, it is very fun you literally tear into groups and yes, even the lousy Standard Attack AI will shred the computer. Your only decision to control is what weapon your characters hold, and occasionally move the getting-hit-often or pretty-much-surrounded person out of the mess.

eg. In Unseeing Eye quest I accidentally wandered into the group of Blind Priests while chasing a Gauth with my main character (who had balduran shield). I Ctrl-Jed my party to behind my main character (not into the middle of the priests), I had 2 missile shooters, 1 Warhammer wielder, and 2 double-weapon wielding character, plus my main character with Celestial Fury. I found that despite the priests getting off many more spells than they would if I had bothered to surprise them properly (backstab, fireball, blah blah), and summoning a lot of creatures, my party shredded them all without batting an eyelid. I only did a bit of targetting here and there.

Edited by Zyraen, 09 April 2008 - 08:46 PM.

[Manascyth]

^With the fast level progression with a three member party, especially if you have a mega install, you can pull off triple classes without much problem. But before I go further: Do you have any class altering mods installed?

Now that you mention it, I downloaded Level 1 NPCs but I haven't used it yet. I have also previously played The Darkest Day, which offers all those additional classes, or is that not the same as class altering? I suppose I could change a lot of stuff in Shadowkeeper as well. I currently use SK to give Imoen a bit more than her ridiculously low strength, but just about nothing else.

It would be great to select the classes I need for some of the NPCs instead of generating my own complete party that never exchange a single word until you kick one out.

I should have been more specific. I mean mods that alter existing classes like Refinements, Divine Remix or Rogue Rebalancing.

[VIIIofSwords]

I've never been one for small groups. Like Zyraen, I tend to either go with a full party or go solo. I tried a three character party once, but I got bored after a while and decided to throw in the first three joinable NPCs that I ran into.

[Scipio]

I should have been more specific. I mean mods that alter existing classes like Refinements, Divine Remix or Rogue Rebalancing.

Sorry about the delay in replying to the neat advice from a number of you.

No, I don't have those mods but I'll check them out.

Maybe I'll start my PC with the Lion Warrior kit that Vilkacis made for me. I think it was Jarno Mikkola who mentioned that this character shapeshifted into lion form would start ToB with AC of -18 or -19, which sounds useful. The Lion Warrior is a Ranger kit. I haven;lt played it very far yet.