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[DeusEx]

1) Yes you can, use patches for the mods you have, everything else is explained in BWP guide (more or less).

2) Not that I know off, but show me a list of mods you want to use.

3) 1pp is a great mod and you won't have any problems with it.

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@Jarno

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Edited by DeusEx, 11 July 2008 - 10:47 AM.

[Jarno Mikkola]

3) 1pp is a great mod and you want have any problems with it

3) 1pp is a great mod and you won't have any problems with it.

[DeusEx]

Well beside the mods I don't use (or know anything about them) there shouldn't be any problems. Widescreen , W_GUI should go after everything and you could sort it all out a bit (you know items with items NPC stuff with NPC). I don't think you will need Hell Trials fix from Quest Pack if you use BWP fixpack (recommended for everything). Keenmarker, SP Collection, Level 1 NPCs, Ghost, Lucy, Dungeon be Gone, GMinion are mods I never used so I can't tell you whether they will cause problems. Now what is DoS25, BG2CPM, The Way of Heroes and where can I find them.

[Jarno Mikkola]

Widescreen, W_GUI should go after everything

The Widescreen mod needs to go after the GUI mod, as you'll have this beauty if it's not.

[Miloch]

SP Collection

This is fine. You want Creslyn's item pack from this instead of the one from SP Item Pack that overwrites. Install all kits near the end (maybe even after GUIs some say).

Level 1 NPCs

This should go after even kits, as the point is to pick up kits so you can assign them to NPCs.

Ghost

This has issues with overwriting animations from other mods. Someone called it a "useless mod" too (maybe even DeusEx) but I wouldn't know about that.

Lucy

Should be ok - just a minimod I think.

Dungeon be Gone

No problem.

GMinion

As a party AI mod, should be ok - some scripts might lag you a bit but just don't use them if so.

what is DoS25

Probably Desecration of Souls (already on list I think).

BG2CPM

No problem with this - just assigns portraits to all characters with dialogue.

The Way of Heroes

Never heard of this either.

[Jarno Mikkola]

The Way of Heroes

Never heard of this either.

It's an item mod that recolors the +3 +armors to glow... according to this. Haven't tested so...

[Miloch]

I've noted I have many mods (Exnem's Addon/Planar Sphere Mod/Sorc Place Item Collection/Arcane-Divine Spell Pack/Lost Crossroads Spellpack/Wild Mage Additions/Planar Sphere Mod/Ashes of Embers) that add spells! Is there any kind of limit, as there are with music tracks and kits, that I'm going to have problems with?

Well, technically, you can only have 100 spells of any level installed, as they are numbered from spwi101 to spwi199 etc. And in practical terms, you can only have as many as will show up in your spellbook for each level. Not sure on that number, but I think it's less than 100.

But the problem with a lot of these mods, is they don't add new spells, or they only add some new spells. Mainly, they change existing spells. And this is where you need to be careful and do some consideration. Some of these mods overwrite files, so whichever one is installed last will "win" - at least for the files it modifies. Read the documentation for each mod carefully. It could be you want to mix and match spells from several mods, or maybe you'll just decide that one or two mods will suit your purposes.

Regarding ADPack, it will overwrite quite a bit, as will LC SpellPack. I have installed both of these before Fixpack (because otherwise they will overwrite Fixpack's spell corrections) and have instructions for how to do that in one of thse BWP posts. You may want to try Spell Revisions instead of AD Pack, but I don't know if anyone's tested it yet. It also will overwrite quite a bit, but its author claims it includes and improves upon ADPack. Just don't install both, as they will just overwrite each other anyway.

Also, where should I add the kits in the installation? The guide basically tells me to not install any kits...

Install them after End-Biff somewhere and you should be fine.

Third... all the graphic mods (One Pixel Inventory Icons/ Flame Swords/ Paperdolls/ Shields/ The Way of Heroes/ W_GUI/ Widescreen) should go at the end, right...? What about all this 'biffing' business, should I biff before or after these mods?

GUI and Widescreen definitely go after End-Biff. The other stuff is up to you, but I would also put it after. The thing about biffing is it archives your override to speed up your gameplay, but the drawback is you can't change anything installed before it once you've done that. So for example, if a 1PP v4 comes out and you've installed 1PP v3 before End-Biff, you're pretty much out of luck if you want to try the new version.

Speaking of biffing! How come the "midbiff" bit is greyed out? Doesn't that mean I shouldn't do it?

Correct. I don't know why you'd want to use it. In fact, I don't even install End-Biff until I'm sure everything else is working and I've backed it up.

And. Do I need the "big picture" mod. I was under the impression that it was only for intergrating the 'big' mods, but the .pdf makes it sound required even if I'm not using these big mods. For example, under the Tactics mod section, many components from that are already included with the Big Picture? Oh, the confusion.

It's primarily an AI mod though it has some compatibility components too perhaps. I don't think you "need" it, but someone more familiar with it might be able to answer better.

Since I'm not BG1'ing it, I assume that the mods in the section "After the Transfer" I should just install after everything else, since there's no transfer for me?

Yes. If you're not playing BG1, you don't need any of those mods either, or even BGT.

Haha, oh yeah. And, reading around, there's topics like this! (http://www.shsforums...4�entry400984). Do I need to worry about these things? E.g there's this issue that the arcane-divine overwrites rather than patches? Sounds major. And the lost crossroads spell pack fix? I can't say I understand all the code.

See my comments above on that. You'll want to grab those fixes though, since I don't think they've been incorporated into the BWP Fixpack yet.

Finally... yeah. There's these mods I have that don't make an appearance on the guide.

• Baldur's Gate II Character Portrait Mod
  
• Lucy the Wyvern Mod
  
• Planar Return
  
• Potion Quest
  
• ToB Heads
  
• Dungeon-be-Gone
  
• iiItem
  
• iiKeynames
  
• Level1NPC

Is anyone aware of wether they're compatible and whereabouts I should install them?

I think I answered most of these before. The only one I'm not sure is compatible is Planar Return, but if you do install it, put it after Planar Sphere. iiItem takes a long (I mean *long*) time to install on BWP. It also stacks potions and arrows in bags of holding, so I wouldn't really recommend it until it can be optimised a bit. L1NPCs install after kits at the end, like I said before.

"A few quick questions" eh?

[Soulfire]

Doesn't Planar Sphere come with Planar Return anyway?

[Miloch]

Doesn't Planar Sphere come with Planar Return anyway?

The Planar Sphere readme says "This mod was not built to include the PlanarSphere Return add-on and compatibility issues may arise."

The Way of Heroes

Never heard of this either.

It's an item mod that recolors the +3 +armors to glow... according to this. Haven't tested so...

I looked at this. You don't really want to install it. Not only is it non-WeiDU, not only does it overwrite a bunch of standard items, but it overwrites your dialog.tlk file, which controls practically all the text in the game. And judging from the screenshots, I suspect the glowing might get annoying after a while. If you really want it, install it after the official patch but before anything else, including the Fixpack. I would really discourage putting any non-WeiDU mods on a BWP install though.

[Chevalier]

Doesn't Planar Sphere come with Planar Return anyway?

Yes, with the current version.

[Miloch]

Yes, with the current version.

Well, I was quoting from the 2.6c readme, so maybe someone needs to update it?

[Chevalier]

Yes, with the current version.

Well, I was quoting from the 2.6c readme, so maybe someone needs to update it?

Why? Who reads them anyway?

[Miloch]

[Soulfire]

Not only is it non-WeiDU

There's non-WeiDU mods? Dear God, have I been sucked into a time warp? Quickly, what year is it?!