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[Choo Choo]

Actually, this is a very, very good idea, and it is original and new. Again, however, it might be a lot of work for you, if she can be developed in so many different ways. She is bound to become more human as she progresses, yes? Will she be able to develop feelings? It raises a lot of questions, but it certainly seems interesting.

[Thanatos.]

... Although the romance scares me. I mean, sex with a machine? I choose life.

Edited by Ithilian Delorio, 27 November 2008 - 01:23 AM.

[Lykainon]

... Although the romance scares me. I mean, sex with a machine? I choose life.

While I can see where you're coming from, it wouldn't exactly be like having sex with a toaster (unless it's a Battlestar Galactica toaster, in which case it's exactly like that but their "toasters" are really hot...). While it hasn't happened in real life (yet) there are plenty of human/machine romances in fiction and with a few exceptions, they aren't that creepy so it can be done without scaring the players . Although now that I think about it, focusing on the "alien" aspects of the relationship would be kinda cool.


As for the idea in general, I think it got some pretty awesome potential and I'd probably play it.

[Thanatos.]

I agree, but... still.

As for how Hisyune was created, how exactly does that work? I mean, take Clay Golems, for example. They only do and say what their creator programs them with, so how is Hisyune any different? How did she get her personality?

BOOM, idea. Perhaps this ultra powerful wizard of waterdeep tried to make a clone of his dead wife, such as Irenicus did with Milady Elf Queen? And, just like Irenicus' clone, it just took one look at this sadistic perve and said "Screw you, I'm outta here."

And yeah, quest potential is here to (Such as the wizard coming to get Hisyune back, etc)

Hear me roar.

[Lykainon]

Toaster. Brilliant.

I wouldn't dream of posting anything less then brilliant. (And yes, I actually am almost that cocky.)

Can clay golems learn from their experiences and such? I do not recall...

I'm not entirely sure but I think golems (the standard variant at least) are a lot like computers in this aspect. They can learn new things but only if they're programmed, not through experience.

[Jenne]

Let's try this again... I'll be going for something a little more neutral, and a little less ambitious.

Actually, I think this is a really ambitious idea, since she can develop in so many ways. But you've got me captured and I would love to play with her. Apart from the romance track, of course. I'm not that into robots and women in general

[Jarno Mikkola]

There is good news, however. This number three construct is the first self-updating model, meaning it can learn from its experiences and develop new skills and abilities in general.

Human - Golem (can be either, as there is no race for construct...right?)
Fighter

Well, if you want to make her a unique NPC, well why not make her class a Construct(Flesh Golem). Meaning that it might be better to make her upgradeable with a speech options and money, items etc. as your good news is a bad thing, as far as the realm lore goes, as learning is not possible to golems.

Edited by Jarno Mikkola, 27 November 2008 - 03:06 AM.

[Thanatos.]

Magic works in mysterious ways. Perhaps the mage in qustion who created Hisyune was a Wild Mage? Side effects are not uncommon in magic. Take the Asylum for example.

[witya]

Have you played with NWN HotU? Remember the Maker from Chapter 2? He created golems and called them their children and after their creator abandoned them, they developed some kind of a free will and a desire for freedom, as I remember. They were much more than "computers", though their will were not that developed. But there was a possibility, definitely. ^^ It doesn't even have to be a wild magic thing... wizards are known to experiment a lot.

[Choo Choo]

Niiiice. Reminds me a bit of Nordom from PS:T.

[witya]

"(Hmm. Very peculiar, this clockwork harlot.)" Omg, I loled. xD These conversations are awesome. ^^

[Lykainon]

I totally agree with witya, they look great and Edwin's harlot-line is pure gold. Very Edwin.

One (very) minor thing though, do they use percentage in Faerûn? It's quite possible that they do and even if they don't it's not that big of a deal.

[Choo Choo]

Nordom uses percentage, IIRC. Not Faerûn per se, but..

[Deva]

Hmm. I can see the appeal, but I don't like the idea of having a robot thingy in a medieval setting, no matter how canon, or how much wild magic is involved. It just doesn't do it for me.

Good luck with the project, though. As far as the stats go, I'd consider lowering both CHA and WIS - a robot can't be charming and persuasive, no matter how well trained, and I don't think wisdom can be possessed by a machine either. Maybe you could raise DEX a little?

[Lykainon]

Good luck with the project, though. As far as the stats go, I'd consider lowering both CHA and WIS - a robot can't be charming and persuasive, no matter how well trained, and I don't think wisdom can be possessed by a machine either.

I can't see why not. A machine that mimics human (well, humanoid) behavior in almost every way should be just as capable of charm and persuation as anyone else. The same goes for wisdom. While that's a very abstract concept any being with similar thought patterns as a human should be able to possess it.

Now, going by the dialogue posted so far this particular machine might not have much of either (at least at the stage where these conversations are held) which is reflected in the stats but I don't see any issues with machines in general, especially machines as advanced and magical as this one, having equal or greater charisma and wisdom to a living creature.

Edited by Lykainon, 27 November 2008 - 12:00 PM.

[Deva]

Good luck with the project, though. As far as the stats go, I'd consider lowering both CHA and WIS - a robot can't be charming and persuasive, no matter how well trained, and I don't think wisdom can be possessed by a machine either.

I can't see why not. A machine that mimics human (well, humanoid) behavior in almost every way should be just as capable of charm and persuation as anyone else. The same goes for wisdom. While that's a very abstract concept any being with similar thought patterns as a human should be able to possess it.

Now, going by the dialogue posted so far this particular machine might not have much of either (at least at the stage where these conversations are held) which is reflected in the stats but I don't see any issues with machines in general, especially machines as advanced and magical as this one, having equal or greater charisma and wisdom to a living creature.

I think it depends how you view wisdom. IMO, it's more about intuition and instinct than thought patterns - and intuition and instinct are two things that a machine could never have. I guess you could sidestep that with the whole 'but she's part HUMAN! ' thing, but that's been done before, I think.

I guess I'm kinda meh about this project because the whole 'cute female robot who is very advanced and has human characteristics' thing has been done to death. Chobits. The Sarah Connor Chronicles.