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#1 --sdrake--

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 10:59 AM

Hello, are there any NPC/NPC romances or frienships missing from this list?

ROMANCES
COMPLETED:
AERIE/HAER'DALIS (from the vanilla game)
ANOMEN/NINAFER (from The Undying mod)
AUREN ASEPH/NALIA (from the Auren Aseph mod)
CHLOE/IMOEN (from the Chloe mod)
KELSEY/IMOEN (from the Kelsey mod)
KIVAN/DEHERIANA (from Kivan And Deheriana Companions For BG2)
KIYONE/KOVA (from Beyond The Law)

IN PROGRESS/NOT COMPLETED YET:
AKLON/AERIE (from the Aklon mod)
ANDREI LUXLEY/IMOEN (in TOB, from the Luxley Family mod)

FRIENDSHIPS (meaning there is a friendship track between the two NPC's)
COMPLETED:
SHEENA/MAZZY (from the Sheena mod)

Thanks in advance.

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 02:10 PM

Tortured Souls - Yoshimo/Kachiko romance

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 05:34 PM

Tortured Souls - Yoshimo/Kachiko romance


Thank you. I had forgotten about that one.

#4 Kaeloree

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 05:43 PM

Moved to IE Modding Discussion.

Upcoming:

Ninde/Viconia
Dace/Viconia

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 06:40 PM

Wait, Dace? As in Spellhold Dace? The Vampire?

#6 Kaeloree

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 06:43 PM

Not quite--this Dace.

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 07:00 PM

Apologies for the posting in the wrong board. Is Viconia/Ninde a friendship or romance? Dace looks like an interesting
and complex character. Keep up the good work!

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 07:01 PM

Both are friendships. :) And I know Tess and Deva will!

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 11:33 PM

Keto/Yoshimo romance; Angelo/Sarevok friendenemyship; Kivan/Aerie long list of talks - friendship; all released.

Lots of unreleased ones here and elsewhere, but I wouldn't keep your hopes up.

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Posted 16 December 2008 - 12:36 AM

Looking at that list I can only conclude that there's something about those Candlekeep bhaalspawns... People apparently can't keep their hands of them. ;)

Not to mention that Immy is apparently more open-minded then I imagined.

I'll be in my bunk. Imagining new things.

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I should stop posting when I'm this sleep deprived (not to mention generally deprevated ;)).

No, nothing constructive in this post. Sorry 'bout that.
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Posted 16 December 2008 - 03:21 AM

Thanks Kulyok for the additions.

So here's the updated list:

ROMANCES
COMPLETED:
AERIE/HAER'DALIS (from the vanilla game)
ANOMEN/NINAFER (from The Undying mod)
AUREN ASEPH/NALIA (from the Auren Aseph mod)
CHLOE/IMOEN (from the Chloe mod)
KELSEY/IMOEN (from the Kelsey mod)
KIVAN/DEHERIANA (from Kivan And Deheriana Companions For BG2)
KIYONE/KOVA (from Beyond The Law)
YOSHIMO/KACHIKO (from the Tortured Souls mod)
KETO/YOSHIMO (from the Keto mod)

IN PROGRESS/NOT COMPLETED YET:
AKLON/AERIE (from the Aklon mod)
ANDREI LUXLEY/IMOEN (in TOB, from the Luxley Family mod)

FRIENDSHIPS (meaning there is an official friendship track between the two NPC's or a mod has several extra friendly banters between two NPC's, more than the normal 2 or 3 most mods have)
COMPLETED:
SHEENA/MAZZY (from the Sheena mod, official friendship track)
AERIE/MAZZY (from the IEP Extended Banter mod, several extra banters)
KIVAN/AERIE (from Kivan And Deheriana Companions for BG2, several extra banters)

IN PROGRESS/NOT COMPLETED YET:
VICONIA/NINDE
DACE/NINDE

OTHER/MISCELLANEOUS (meaning there are extra banters betwen two NPC's that aren't necessarily a friendship)
ANGELO/SAREVOK

The Crossmod Banter Pack has some NPC's that banter with each other 4 or more times. Some of these are friendships
and others likely go in the other/miscellaneous category.

Finally, does Hessa (an old One-Day NPC) have a romance with Anomen if he fails his test?

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Posted 16 December 2008 - 06:49 AM

I think Surayah was going to, but Hessa doesn't have one - not until an expanded version is to be released.

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Posted 16 December 2008 - 08:51 AM

I think Darian and Mazzy will have a romance, if that's still going.

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Posted 16 December 2008 - 11:05 PM

Thanks for the replies, will post an updated list later. Darian and Mazzy looks promising, the Surayah mod with an
Anomen romance will perhaps be released in time?

@Lykainon
Imoen has her own romance with the PC (Lord Mirrabo) and (after The Luxley Family TOB is finished) will have 3
NPC romances (Chloe, Kelsey, Andrei Luxley). Perhaps in time Lord Mirrabo will finish his Imoen romance and also
perhaps the Imoen Relationship mod will be released.

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 01:20 AM

FRIENDSHIPS (meaning there is an official friendship track between the two NPC's or a mod has several extra friendly banters between two NPC's, more than the normal 2 or 3 most mods have)


Amber has total of 8 (possible) banters in SoA with Haer'Dalis, 8 with Imoen and 7 with Viconia. I'm not sure that I would call the relationship between Vic and Amber a friendship, though. Quite the opposite infact. And with HD - well, I'm sure he'd like to be extra friendly... ;) Imoen is the only one with 'normal' friendly talks, so she's probably the only one that counts.
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Posted 17 December 2008 - 04:13 AM

Thanks Meira for the input. This list should have a third category.

NPC/NPC Romances
NPC/NPC Friendships
NPC/NPC Rivalries/Dislikes/Feuds/

So what I am saying is that if a mod has two NPC's bantering more than 2 or 3 times then generally there is a
friendship or in some cases a rivalry/dislike/feud/etc. going on.

Examples:
Amber and Viconia don't like each other, they have more than 2/3 banters about this, so this goes in the NPC/NPC
Rivalries/Dislikes/Feuds list.
Aerie and Mazzy are dear friends, they have the 8 banters (from the IEP Extended Banter mod), this goes in the
NPC/NPC Friendships list.

This list was originally for my own personal use but I'll keep updating this thread if there is interest.

By the way Meria looking forward to Amber TOB!

#17 Lykainon

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 04:22 AM

So what I am saying is that if a mod has two NPC's bantering more than 2 or 3 times then generally there is a
friendship or in some cases a rivalry/dislike/feud/etc. going on.


If four mere banters count, Cason (my NPC in progress) has some sort of love/hate (or rather annoyance/interest) thing going on with Viconia and something of a weird friendship with Keldorn (actually it's mostly Keldorn trying to redeem Cason and Cason trying to convince Keldorn of the futility in honor). Now, since Cason is very much still in progress, it's quite likely that other banters goes above 3/NPC as well.

Edited by Lykainon, 17 December 2008 - 04:23 AM.

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 10:33 AM

I'd say 7/8 banters would constitute a romance/friendship between NPCs, and not much less.

Jaheira and Viconia have a fairly extensive track in IEP Banters, though it's neither antagonistic nor friendly.

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Posted 18 December 2008 - 03:54 AM

@Lykainon
Cason looks he has a lot of potential to be a great NPC. The talks with Keldorn could be amusing, with Keldorn being
deathly serious about the horrors awaiting Cason in the afterlife if he doesn't change his ways and Cason responds
in some casual manner, or something like that. Good luck with the mod and I hope to see a release soon.

@K'aeloree
I agree, 7/8 banters sounds like a reasoable minimum for an NPC/NPC friendship/romance.

After veering away from the official romances and friendships track list into trying to figure out how many banters
makes a friendship/rivalry/feud/business association etc. I think what would be good is make an NPC Relationships
Guide, which would have a more-than-brief analysis on what kind of relationship the NPC's (Bioware and mod) have with
each other. I've compiled a lot of notes already but this will take some time.

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Posted 18 December 2008 - 04:22 AM

@Lykainon
Cason looks he has a lot of potential to be a great NPC. The talks with Keldorn could be amusing, with Keldorn being
deathly serious about the horrors awaiting Cason in the afterlife if he doesn't change his ways and Cason responds
in some casual manner, or something like that. Good luck with the mod and I hope to see a release soon.


Thanks. I'm not sure that approach would fit the way I've written Keldorn so far. To me, he seems more like a honor and goodness for it's own sake rather then honor and goodness to avoid being punished in the afterlife kind of guy. More Lawful Good then Lawful Good if you understand what I mean. Although that sort of thinking could fit Anomen quite well and I've been having some trouble writing Anomen banters (either Anomen comes of as a total jerk or Cason comes of as completely moronic). Have you read the Keldorn banter that I've posted in the Cason thread? (If you have and feel like giving feedback, you should probably post it in that thread to avoid taking your own thread off topic ;)).

Also, why haven't you registered? Nothing wrong with being a guest or anything but seeing as you've been quite active it would seem convenient to get a proper username. :)
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