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[Uranium - 235]

"Level 1 NPCs" just doesn't seem to work all the time. I thought it may be because it ONLY works on default NPCs and therefore not added ones, but when I picked up Minsc... there was a gray 'explosion' over him, he was awarded about 200 quest XP (I imagine how it works is this: Game gets their XP, does some sort of 'level drain' on them, then awards their XP as quest XP), but it didn't do anything really, because he was still level 3! Come to think of it, I can't recall it working whatsoever on ANYbody. They all got a handful of quest XP but they all were still greater than level 1 when they joined the party. Though now that I think about it, I recall Jaheria being given 100 XP, then given -100XP, about two or three times...

I do the 'select, press R, go back' and I can't for the life of me figure out what the hell this mod is doing.

Edited by Uranium - 235, 09 May 2009 - 11:01 AM.

[Jarno Mikkola]

"Level 1 NPCs" just doesn't seem to work all the time. I thought it may be because it ONLY works on default NPCs and therefore not added ones, but when I picked up Minsc... there was a gray 'explosion' over him, he was awarded about 200 quest XP (I imagine how it works is this: Game gets their XP, does some sort of 'level drain' on them, then awards their XP as quest XP), but it didn't do anything really, because he was still level 3! Come to think of it, I can't recall it working whatsoever on ANYbody. They all got a handful of quest XP but they all were still greater than level 1 when they joined the party. Though now that I think about it, I recall Jaheria being given 100 XP, then given -100XP, about two or three times...

I do the 'select, press R, go back' and I can't for the life of me figure out what the hell this mod is doing.

The XP exchange is cause the game figures how to give the NPCs the approximately the same amount of XP as your PC has.
Now, the Level 1 NPCs other function, making the NPCs start from level 1 only affects the if you install the NPC specific component, last time I checked it started with 12xx number. You need to manually start the setup-level1npcs.exe for this!!! And skip the already installed components! ...that's very important!!!
The component also give you possibility to remake the whole NPC, by first giving you option to choose class, Kit, proficiencies, possible spells and thieving skills etc. ... which then with the XP adjustment, will give you really useful NPC adjustment tool without cheating...

Edited by Jarno Mikkola, 09 May 2009 - 11:26 AM.

[Leomar]

is " BG1 Adventure Pack " compatible with bgt?

The mod itself is not BGT compatibel. You need the "BiG World Fixpack" to do it.
You can read about it here in the BWP v7.0 news.

Greetings Leomar

[new(Mike)]

is " BG1 Adventure Pack " compatible with bgt?

The mod itself is not BGT compatibel. You need the "BiG World Fixpack" to do it.
You can read about it here in the BWP v7.0 news.

Greetings Leomar

i find the content of _delete in the folder of "BiG World Fixpack\bg1adventure\_depends\BGT" is
"areas\AR0502.ARE
areas\AR0503.ARE
areas\AR0505.ARE
areas\AR5011.ARE
areas\AR5012.ARE
areas\AR5013.ARE
areas\AR0514.ARE
areas\AR1505.ARE
areas\AR1602.ARE
areas\AR1603.ARE
areas\AR3307.bcs
creatures\GORF.CRE
creatures\BGSKELWA.CRE"

i think the last should be "creatures\SKELWA.CRE"

Edited by new(Mike), 10 May 2009 - 05:28 PM.

[Leomar]

i find the content of _delete in the folder of "BiG World Fixpack\bg1adventure\_depends\BGT" is

"creatures\GORF.CRE
creatures\BGSKELWA.CRE"

i think the last should be "creatures\SKELWA.CRE"

Nice catch, we'll correct this. Thank you.

O.k., that is not the behaviour which we want of the "BiG World Clean-Up.bat". Sounds funny: We delete our own "BiG World Debug.txt"

Hmmm, I've heard, that this is not true. If you use the "BiG World Clean-Up.bat", then the "BiG World Debug.txt" is moved to the new readme files folder, where you fid all the setup-mod.DEBUG's. Can you check this again?

Greetings Leomar

Attached Files

•  BG1UB_Fixed_kagaij.d.zip   425bytes   253 downloads

Edited by Leomar, 28 July 2009 - 07:43 PM.

[Silinde Ar-Feiniel]

@Leomar

Yeah! I've finally found it! It's indeed in the new readme files folder! I had no idea that there is such a folder, I'm sorry!
With such a huge amount of folders I missed it so far!
I think White Agnus have already identified the problem but in case it can still be usefull, here it is!  BiG_World_Debug.rar   458.08K   298 downloads

[new(Mike)]

O.k., that is not the behaviour which we want of the "BiG World Clean-Up.bat". Sounds funny: We delete our own "BiG World Debug.txt"

Hmmm, I've heard, that this is not true. If you use the "BiG World Clean-Up.bat", then the "BiG World Debug.txt" is moved to the new readme files folder, where you fid all the setup-mod.DEBUG's. Can you check this again?

Greetings Leomar

yes, i find the "BiG World Debug.txt" in the new readme files folder.

[Leomar]

@Leomar

Yeah! I've finally found it! It's indeed in the new readme files folder! I had no idea that there is such a folder, I'm sorry!
With such a huge amount of folders I missed it so far!
I think White Agnus have already identified the problem but in case it can still be usefull, here it is!  BiG_World_Debug.rar   458.08K   298 downloads

Yes, White Agnus has said it right. It is an error in the mod itself.

And thanks for the "BiG World Debug" information, so we're not so stupid as I thought before.

Greetings Leomar

[Silinde Ar-Feiniel]

You're very brilliant and no stupid at all! Thanks to you all people can enjoy the ultimate BWP experience!

[Creepin]

I'd like to report somewhat inconvenient issue I've run into because of including Wild Mage Additions mod into my install list.

Namely, I was ambushed by 30th level wild mage while me and Imoen was on our way through "Gorion's Rest" location. Even if killed, which is possible with a lot of fake-talk abuse, it leaves 20k of exp and some rather powerful items, pretty screwing my 1st-level adventure experience so that I had to use console to get my 800 exp back and stashed the loot in a nearest tree hollow

Now on more serious note, here's what was added to baldur.bcs by the mod:
[codebox]IF
Global("wm_start","GLOBAL",0)
GlobalGT("Chapter","GLOBAL",0)
Partyrested()
AreaType(OUTDOOR)
THEN
RESPONSE #100
ActionOverride(Player1,Createcreature("wm_rhia1",[-1.-1],0))
SetGlobal("wm_start","GLOBAL",1)
END[/codebox]
Obviously it was coded with BG2 in mind, but in BW environment it ends up as rather inconvenient, if funny, quirk of spawning this mob right after my first night out of Candlekeep walls.

While this by no means is BW fault, I decided to post it here with the hope that something could be done with this situation within frames of BW Fixpack, perhaps some BG2 check added.

Edited by Creepin, 12 May 2009 - 11:41 AM.

[dreamer2007]

I'd like to report somewhat inconvenient issue I've run into because of including Wild Mage Additions mod into my install list.

Namely, I was ambushed by 30th level wild mage while me and Imoen was on our way through "Gorion's Rest" location. Even if killed, which is possible with a lot of fake-talk abuse, it leaves 20k of exp and some rather powerful items, pretty screwing my 1st-level adventure experience so that I had to use console to get my 800 exp back and stashed the loot in a nearest tree hollow

Now on more serious note, here's what was added to baldur.bcs by the mod:

IF
	Global("wm_start","GLOBAL",0)
	GlobalGT("Chapter","GLOBAL",0)
	Partyrested()
        AreaType(OUTDOOR)
THEN
	RESPONSE #100          ActionOverride(Player1,Createcreature("wm_rhia1",[-1.-1],0))           SetGlobal("wm_start","GLOBAL",1)END

Obviously it was coded with BG2 in mind, but in BW environment it ends up as rather inconvenient, if funny, quirk of spawning this mob right after my first night out of Candlekeep walls.

While this by no means is BW fault, I decided to post it here with the hope that something could be done with this situation within frames of BW Fixpack, perhaps some BG2 check added.

From what I know that encounter was intended to appear right at the beginning of BG1. And, yes he was intended to be very powerful but there is a trick to defeat him easily that you will find in the mods readme from what I've heard.

Edited by dreamer2007, 12 May 2009 - 12:06 PM.

[Creepin]

From what I know that encounter was intended to appear right at the beginning of BG1. And, yes he was intended to be very powerful but there is a trick to defeat him easily that you will find in the mods readme from what I've heard.

I've studied mod's readme and homepage more carefully and it looks like mod's author was indeed ok with running the mod as a part of TuTu, so technically it's equally ok for BW. I believe this leaves us with overpowered, disbalancing yet technically not buggy mod.
My thanks for pointing this out dreamer2007!

[PinchIt]

After scanning the BWP install bat and getting ready to edit it, I have one question.

Line 2587 of the install bat - %IFS%scs.exe del ".\override\*.d" | %M%
What exactly is this line doing and why is it getting done?

Thanks for any answers.

[Leomar]

@ Wild Mage Additions

From what I know that encounter was intended to appear right at the beginning of BG1. And, yes he was intended to be very powerful but there is a trick to defeat him easily that you will find in the mods readme from what I've heard.

We've made a BGT patch for this mod and we are in contact with JOE the modauthor. So next time this encounter is changed for BG1 and better balanced.



@ PinchIt

Line 2587 of the install bat - %IFS%scs.exe del ".\override\*.d" | %M%
What exactly is this line doing and why is it getting done?

SCS compile the .d-files in the override folder and don't delete them afterwards or use another directory for the process. So we do this with this command, to avoid compatibility problems, which other mods have with it. It is not really a fault be SCS. The problems comes from other mods, which are not correct coded. Most of the wrong coded mods are corrected, now, but still there exist some.


Greetings Leomar

[Jarno Mikkola]

Namely, I was ambushed by 30th level wild mage while me and Imoen was on our way through "Gorion's Rest" location. Even if killed, which is possible with a lot of fake-talk abuse,

Or you could have run away from him, and look his spell turning him in to a Squirrel in few turns and then go back and kill him, and get the items... and the encounter by the way is leveled by the characters script according to the players level, so it's build for level 1 partyes too.

[Mantis]

Hello everyone, thank you for the effort you have been putting into this project.

I am attempting to make a large BG2 installation, using some of the instructions in these posts:

http://www.shsforums...php/t38395.html
http://www.shsforums...php/t38644.html

In total I am using about 40mods, including the megamods Check the Bodies, The Darkest Day and Shadows over Soubar. To this end I included BGT as the BiG World guide says that this mod makes some corrections to SoS, TDD and CtB. However, when I attempted to change the BiG World install program to skip Baldur`s Gate 1 as the above instructions suggest, I still found the installer hanging while looking for the Baldur`s Gate directory. Unfortunately this meant I had to exit the installer, leaving BiF files in my directory.
I am now considering reinstalling BG2, and then installing BG1 and ToTSC, along with the non-tutu mods such as Bone Hill and Northern Tales of the Sword Coast just for the sake of simplicity! However, I should like to know...

How does one change the 7.0 installer so as to only install BG2 mods?
If I uninstall all the WeiDu mods so far installed, delete the biffed files, and then restore my backups of the dialog.tlk file, override directory, chitin key etc. can I restart the installation from there? I`ll probably reinstall everything anyway and back it the data files on DVD but it would be nice to know anyway.

Thank you for your time.

[Mantis]

Reading the reinstalling threads properly I notice that I didn`t copy the data folder as I should have done. Hopefully I can clean up yesterday`s installation from that directory and the wei-du log, otherwise I shall do things fully again!

Edited by Mantis, 14 May 2009 - 10:52 PM.