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[the bigg]

Jarno Mikkola, on 06 September 2010 - 08:21 AM, said:

I honestly don't know... but I would like the; Int -> Wand, Breath, Poly: Wis -> Spell: Cha -> Hold .... a bit more, perhaps.

Me too; however, 1) some people would likely prefer to stay closer to 3rd edition rules (especially since that's how the component is called), and 2) people like Mike and Galactycon have a better grasp of game balance than me (especially after factoring in the interactions between tb#tweaks and their mod), so I'm waiting for other people's opinions before writing up one solution.

[Mike1072]

the bigg, on 06 September 2010 - 08:34 AM, said:

Jarno Mikkola, on 06 September 2010 - 08:21 AM, said:

I honestly don't know... but I would like the; Int -> Wand, Breath, Poly: Wis -> Spell: Cha -> Hold .... a bit more, perhaps.

Me too; however, 1) some people would likely prefer to stay closer to 3rd edition rules (especially since that's how the component is called), and 2) people like Mike and Galactycon have a better grasp of game balance than me (especially after factoring in the interactions between tb#tweaks and their mod), so I'm waiting for other people's opinions before writing up one solution.

If you want the opinion of someone who knows the game and PnP really well, ask Demi. After years of playing BG2, I still have no idea how most of the spell protections and removals work.

I can say that Spell Revisions assigns saving throws vs. Breath for spells offering a Reflex-type save, Death/Poison/Paralyzation for Fortitude, and Spell for Will.

[the bigg]

I think that settles it for Dex -> Breath, Con -> Death and Wis -> Spell. Shame that Int is still useless and Chr easily replaceable by the rest of your party, though.

[the bigg]

Borsook, on 01 January 2011 - 03:27 AM, said:

Is this component IWD1 compatible?

I don't even have IWD1 installed, but I suspect it is compatible.

@vGur, on 01 January 2011 - 04:38 AM, said:

Dex - WAND, Breath, Con - Polymorph, Death/Poison, Wis - Spell = 3rd edition
BUT, Dex & Cha - Wand, breath, Con & Str - Polymorph, Death/Poison, Wis & Int - Spell - even better than 3rd edition, call it 2rd ed inspired homebrew

I chose Dex - WAND, Breath, Con - Polymorph, Death/Poison, Wis - Spell because it integrates nicely with Item Revision / Spell Revision, which assign Reflex-type saves to Breath, Fortitude to Death/Poison and Will to Spell, leaving Wand and Polymorph more or less unused. I could do what you're asking, but to offer the choice between multiple rule sets I'd have to break component numbers (and make it harder to reinstall properly), so I'll only do it more people want this sort of thing. If only you want it I could give you instructions on editing the files.

[Jarno Mikkola]

@vGur, on 01 January 2011 - 06:01 AM, said:

remember Fallout? where str & con deal with health equally,

Quite sure it didn't in the original games(Fallout & Fallout 2, Fallout Tactics), besides that was Endurance not Constitution, you gained only +1 hit point from Str point, while you gained +2 * Endurance and +1/2 * (character_level - 1) * Endurance...

Edited by Jarno Mikkola, 01 January 2011 - 06:32 AM.

[Quester]

If intelligence could somehow be made less useless for a non-caster, that would be great. And if there could be some use for charisma for more than one member of your party, that would be great too.

I love these 3e stat components even as they are, though!