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[Chevalier]

Have you read this?

1. Always patch the game(s) with the latest patch, start a new game and exit after the game has auto-saves itself(so you have to make a char or choose a pre-made one), before you do any moding, and you might as well make a safe backup from the important files: data and override folders, baldur.exe, BGMain.exe, dialog.tlk and CHITIN.key .
2. Put the ambient sounds off from the BGConfic.exe, as some of the areas might have no ambient sounds and so the game tries to start them many time continuously, and so looses processing power.
3. Don't mess with the game configurations so the speed adjustment percentages stay on "normal" ratings even if you have very high end machine, as the game has own it's internal fps counter, it sometimes tries to correct the fps on it's own by lowering graphs etc. Also the games frame rate should be set to about 30, as that's the default.
4. I wouldn't recommend to install any of the speaking item mods, as they run their scripts and fire their comments everywhere, and that's bad for the fps(frames/second count).
5. Inventory management(no stacks that have more than about 200 items, in a bag, arrows etc.), -might also help. And do not carry too many bags of holding and the like storage items.
6. Trying to avoid too many effects on a character(about 20 is fine, 200 is too many, and 20 000 is way way too many...)
7. De-fragmenting your hard drive might also help... as you don't have to go find the data in the pieces. (hmm, there is a joke in there, hih)
8. Before installing the mods, plan the exact order, so they are in correct order, and make sure if you uninstalled the game that you deleted the old mod files, the data and override folders(don't go and overwrite them) so you can start from a clean install, so there is no leftovers from old mods.
9. Helpful links for Tutu and BGT(the .pdf files) -based Megamods.
10. Take note that you should do all the points 1-9 before you install any mods!
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11. And when you have installed all the mods you are going to, it might be a good idea to biff your override folder, but do that knowing that you generally can't change the game much after. The easiest way to do this is to use the End_biff from here.
12. Repeat the step 7 again, if you think it might help.
13. When you quit the game, delete the old files from the Cache folder, if the game puts any files there.
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14. Complete all the quests you are given, as in a long game, the scripts that are looking IF you have this-or-that quest active, they will be screaming and causing lags, if their checks are in global category and used all the time...

[omniscientist]

Hi.
When playing, the game have become "choppy" or lagging. When pausing, this effect stops when paused.
I have tried tuning down sound-effects and graphics, and I have defragged my harddisk, but nothing helped. I am about to give up the game.

Have finished the dragon quest in Dark Side, and started the missing child.

I have found that lag will generally increase in your game over a long period of time due to the great number of different items being accumulated by your characters. Just recently the lag got fairly severe for myself; I was able to alleviate ~90% of the lag by throwing away all of the items I had no use for anymore and then letting them decay or whatnot.

I have suspicions that it isn't due to the # of items, but rather a badly behaving script associated with certain items. Probably too time consuming to narrow down the specific items, so I'd suggest to clean out all of your bags. After you clean them out (I cleaned up by dropping items on the ground), go to another map and rest a bunch of times. Check if your lag is gone. Not a great solution, but it worked for me.

[Jarno Mikkola]

Have you read this?

Halstein probably has, but the newest and biggest list is in my FAQ4tMMs... it's the second pinned topic in this forum by the way.

And again, the ambient sounds need to be turned off from the BGConfig.exe, not tun them down from the game options...
Halstein could have done that and still have lag, I would advice first to try to talk to all the NPCs that are in the group with the talk button, then if that doesn't help, try to start a new ToB game with a character and then come back to try the old game.
If that doesn't help, take every item that the group carries and put them into a cheat and go to another area by traveling to there by the worldmap and hope there's no attack. And if it helps, you can try to narrow it down to objects...
And if that doesn't help, try to kick everyone out from the party.

Edited by Jarno Mikkola, 20 June 2010 - 01:02 AM.

[Jarno Mikkola]

I tried biffing,

Well, the biffing won't help because this:

~GENERALIZED_BIFFING/GENERALIZED_BIFFING.TP2~ #0 #0 // generalized biffing: v2

=> The game is already biffed. The "Mini infopack to avoid lags v1.1" of course didn't cover that, because it wasn't around then.

[neutrowave]

same happened to me and I had a much older PC...get rid of all backpacks from party members inventories (I put them in a barrel outside for easy access)

[Fennek]

To be honest, it's no problem to run BG2 on such a pc, but BWP... especially with SCS (although it's better now) - sorry, won't work without lag. I guess when you pause the game, there's no lag... You might try some tricks, but I'd be impressed if you'd get rid of the lag completely. Based on my own experience.

[Mad Mate]

Hi, Esteban!
Can you upload your's lagging udmaster.bcs somewhere? I'm trying to fix SCS and I want to see is it fixed now with latest fixes.
Thank you!

[Mad Mate]

I have 2 installs, 1 Tobex+BG2Fixpack+SR+IR+SCS which have no lags in AR2400, and other Megamod install which have problems like you.
And I found out what is culprit.
Slaves in area, UDILSLA3 & 4, have amulet MGLOBE.ITM that should display some animation SPMINDAT.VVC.
SCS is not problem here. Not one mod touches that animation. Maybe 1PP or Infinity Animations? I don't know.
I changed item a bit, and it fixes problem for me, but it would be better to found out why is this happening.
Can you try this file in override?
 MGLOBE.ITM   162bytes   137 downloads

Edited by Mad Mate, 25 October 2014 - 07:35 PM.

[kreso]

Maybe 1PP

This I think is the 2nd factor present in all installs...

[The Imp]

@kreso:   like here, --change-log the "mglobe.itm" -file and find out. It's the easiest thing to do when you know the file name and you get the backup items you can use to see if there's a mod that actually changes it and thus also the mod responsible of the changes ...

Edited by The Imp, 26 October 2014 - 02:38 AM.

[kreso]

@kreso:   like here, --change-log the "mglobe.itm" -file and find out. It's the easiest thing to do when you know the file name and you get the backup items you can use to see if there's a mod that actually changes it and thus also the mod responsible of the changes ...

I would. But I currently have no SCS or 1PP installed.

[Mad Mate]

@kreso:   like here, --change-log the "mglobe.itm" -file and find out. It's the easiest thing to do when you know the file name and you get the backup items you can use to see if there's a mod that actually changes it and thus also the mod responsible of the changes ...

I know it is, but change log comes up empty, because nothing changed item. I even tried to put vanilla UDILSLA3.CRE, UDILSLA4.CRE & MGLOBE.ITM in override, and same lag and choppiness occurs. But if I change timing mode of item effect (SPMINDAT.VVC) from "Instant/While equipped (2)" to "Instant/Limited (0)", lag is gone.
So, it must be that some of the other mods changed something in area, that collides with effect of vanilla item. I could try to install mods one by one, but I don't have time now.
And it could be specific for my install, so that is why I asked Esteban to try it.

Edited by Mad Mate, 26 October 2014 - 09:14 AM.

[The Imp]

Is there a way to get a list of installed mods?

Just like in the very first post, opening the weidu.log file with Notepad should tell you things, of course if you have never done so, then it can be a little confusing, but you'll learn to read the file in and out.
Now of course if you have moved the game for whatever reason, then the weidu.log's content wouldn't be accurate, but usually it is.

Edited by The Imp, 29 October 2014 - 08:47 AM.