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[dmxdex]

To me RPG's that are out now just dont compare. I loved diablo 2. In the current era i like titan quest which again in hack and slash. Just something about baldurs gate that is awesome. I have hardly played alot of it but love it to bits. I first played baldurs gate 2 as a kid but struggled to understand it but did like it. I wanted to first play baldurs gate 1 but the low res sucked. Now i can play it in high res with all mods its just awesome. I like mass effect 1 and neverwinter nights 1. I dislike dragon age and MMO games. bioware just seem to suck me in with their games.

Edited by dmxdex, 27 July 2010 - 12:40 PM.

[Ipsissimus]

It's been said before, but I'll say it again.

How can anyone like Neverwinter Nights?

[-JR-]

Excellent! Please vote here to keep Baldur's Gate II in the lead. It's been neck and neck with Neverwinter Nights since the beginning.

I love Icewind Dale I and II, Dragon Age, and Mass Effect (haven't played the sequel yet though), but I haven't found anything that can compare to the Baldur's Gates. Personally, I enjoyed the first game's graphics a lot more; despite their simplicity, they looked more like real people to me.

The only Bioware game I've played that I wasn't absolutely crazy over was Neverwinter Nights. The grapics were so poor they hurt my eyes, and while that isn't enough to be a deciding factor on whether or not something is good, it is certainly a contributory factor. The plot took a nose dive after the initial idea of the plague, and despite my incredibly optimistic view going into things, I soon became bored. Also, the toolset people are so in love with didn't work on any of my numerous computers no matter what i did. Old and new models both: nothing would even let me load the thing up. Though I did have a lot of fun on the online multiplayer- it was the first thing like that I became aware of.

[Ipsissimus]

I enjoyed the first game's graphics a lot more

Go install One Pixel Productions. Now. (Completely offtopic, but JR, did you get that file I sent you?)


Icewind Dale I is great in that it's an open canvas of sorts. It's entirely up to the player to decide on the interactions and personalities of *their* characters, and that has a certain appeal to it. At the moment, I'm using Alianna (mother of the PC Bhaalspawn) as a character in one of my games It helps that the graphics are lovely, and the music is incredible. I had trouble getting into IWD II as I dislike the combat system, although I'll probably make several playthroughs for IWD II NPCs.


For me, BG1 is the right combination of plot and exploration, with the storyline and all the areas to explore This is also why Tutu and BG1 NPC are awesome, rather than merely great. BG2 feels a little more...confined, I suppose. No matter what you do, you have to go to Spellhold, fight Irenicus, etc. But the plot and characters are, to me, so compelling even in the unmodded game...it works very well indeed.


Though I have to say, the modding possibilities of BG2 are pretty great too I've tried a number of megamods (TDD, SoS, CTB, TS) and I haven't liked any of them, but I'm happy with the vanilla game+smaller quests+NPCs. Besides, if I really wanted a brand-new BG2 experience, I'd just keep playing Classic Adventures

[-JR-]

I enjoyed the first game's graphics a lot more

Go install One Pixel Productions. Now.

Hey, they might be simpler, but it looked a whole lot more believable to me. I mean, Baldur's Gate II gave metal pauldrons to unarmored fighters (something that is uncomfortable even when woven into a full suit), and provided similarly dissatisfying changes to many other paperdolls. The new system defintely had more potential, but the improvements didn't outweigh the losses in my opinion.

(Completely offtopic, but JR, did you get that file I sent you?)

Yes I did, fellow conspirator. We will be gods for this.

Icewind Dale I is great in that it's an open canvas of sorts. It's entirely up to the player to decide on the interactions and personalities of *their* characters, and that has a certain appeal to it.

True, though I think the average player probably doesn't give it a second thought. I finally found my Icewind Dale CDs just today and installed in and began creating a party. I love the portraits and voices in the Icewind Dales; they're so well-done they already seem to have lives of their own.

At the moment, I'm using Alianna (mother of the PC Bhaalspawn) as a character in one of my games It helps that the graphics are lovely, and the music is incredible.

Interesting idea. It would probably work best if your PC was an elf. I always put Xan in my Icewind Dale I group as a kid, a decision I made even before I read Erevain's journal for the first time. I've been reconsidering it now that I've discovered Kulyok's Xan and the (ToB?) content where he discusses his journey to Icewind Dale to visit the graveyard that contained his cousin.

I had trouble getting into IWD II as I dislike the combat system, although I'll probably make several playthroughs for IWD II NPCs.

I didn't like the leveling system or the implementation of the third edition rules, but the plot really drew me into that one. I like "epic but believably so" as a theme, something that Baldur's Gate overshot, despite its numerous triumphs.

The Icewind Dale II NPC Project was awesome, but it frustrated me to no end. Before playing it or even learning of its existance, I had created what essentially amounted to a series of such similar characters that noone in the world would believe I didn't steal them. And what's worse, I loved some of Domi's characters so much that I'm not sure whether to keep all of mine, keep all of hers, or mix and match the two groups when I write my inevitable fanfiction.

Edited by -JR-, 27 July 2010 - 10:25 PM.

[princesspurpleblob]

Neverwinter nights sucks (although mod does make it a little better). It CANNOT be compared to BG2. What are they smoking?!

I liked some recent rpgs like ME2 and DA:O but still they are no where near as good as BG2.

BG2 >>>>>>>>>>>>> ME2 > DA:O (especially Awakening) >>>>>>>>> NWN.

[Choo Choo]

In my opinion, Baldur's Gate isn't the best RPG ever (though it's damn close). That honour just has to go to Planescape: Torment.

I do love the more recent ones, too - Mass Effect in particular, especially the sequel. But the old ones... especially BG1 and PS:T... they make me want to wax nostalgic. A lot.

Also, I totally agree with everyone bashing NWN and NWN2 - although I haven't played any player-made campaigns, and I haven't played either Hordes of the Underdark for the former or Mask of the Betrayer for the latter. I've heard they're better than the OC's?

Edited by Choo Choo, 28 July 2010 - 04:29 AM.

[vilkacis]

I dunno, I like a little more RP in my G.

Still, won't deny that I liked the low-level gameplay in BG better than the "oh, I'll just buy this Rod of Resurrection" stuff in BG2.

they make me want to wax nostalgic

I believe you mean "wax goddamn nostlgic".

[-JR-]

Vilkacis, please change your avatar back to Urdnot Wrex.

Edited by -JR-, 28 July 2010 - 06:51 PM.

[berelinde]

Vilkasis, please change your avatar back to Urdnot Wrex.

Seconded.

[-JR-]

Berelinde, I defended your honor from some butthole Rakshasa on the Bioware poll.

[berelinde]

Thanks! I was wondering who that was.

[-JR-]

Yep, it's me; I'm Urdnot Wrex on that forum, like Vilkacis should be here.

Someone should dissolve that filthy cat man in sulfuric acid like they did with the corpse of the guy who shot William McKinley. Or pour several tons of hot lead on him like they did to the xenomorph in Alien III. Though I doubt they'd have to finish him off by dousing him with water afterward: he'd be gone.

[Choo Choo]

I believe you mean "wax goddamn nostlgic".

I believe I did!

Vilkasis, please change your avatar back to Urdnot Wrex.

Seconded.

Thirded.

[vilkacis]

[-JR-]

You... that's Grunt! Watch your back, Vilkacis.

[Vherdel]

Well, yeah it is.
Although I must say I like Icewind dale a lot as well, but current ''new games'', even dragon age, just pale in comparison.
No other games so far have such a classic story and amazing abilites, stategics and just plain awesome weapons ( Silent death and the short sword of backstabbing +5 from aVENGER's Rogue rebalancing mod are my fav's).