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[Brynn]

Hi all,

I can only hope that there are still some people reading these forums

I'm trying to play BG II again, and the only mod I'd love to use is Edwin Romance. However, I'm having some problems with it - could you guys please have a look at it and help?

The bug (?) is that the romance seems to stop when he turns into Edwina. I get some of his LTs, but I cannot initiate a dialog, all I get is the "Edwina, you look odd" line, no matter how much I rest or how many zones I enter. When he turns back to Edwin, it's the other way around - I can talk to him, but he won't start a dialog by himself.
Everything went fine until he changed, I got LTs from time to time and I could also initiate a dialog whenever I wanted.

Here are the related variables from a saved game when he was Edwina (Degradan has already visited the party once, and I already had the drunk and the cooking conversations with Eddie):

EDWINCANTGETDRUNK 3
EDWINCOMPLAIN 3623454
EDWINDRUNK 1
EDWINJOB 5
EDWINLOVETALKCHECK 25
EDWINMATCH 1
EDWINEOMANCE 644317
EDWINROMANCEACTIVE 2
EDWINROMANCEWARNING 3
EDWINWANTSTOBEFEMININE 667067

And here are the values after he changed back and we've travelled around for a good ten plus in-game days:

EDWINCANTGETDRUNK 3
EDWINCOMPLAIN 3623454
EDWINDRUNK 1
EDWINJOB 5
EDWINLOVETALKCHECK 29
EDWINMATCH 1
EDWINROMANCE 695304
EDWINROMANCEACTIVE 2
EDWINROMANCEWARNING 3
EDWINWANTSTOBEFEMININE 667067

There are other EDWIN variables too, like EDWINAME etc. which seem irrelevant to the romance. Please let me know if including any of those would help.

What I notice in the saved games after he changed back is that the EDWINROMANCE var seems to be stuck on 695304. I'm not sure what is supposed to trigger a change in this var - does it get a new value automatically by time, or after a specific event/encounter? Is this some kind of timer until the next LT? If so, at what value is the next LT supposed to trigger?

I'm running the game on Windows XP, the game is in the default install folder, and here's the install order I used:

SoA, ToB, ToB patch
Edwin SoA, Edwin ToB, Edwin flirts

I'm not using any other mods. I'm viewing the saved games with Shadowkeeper.

Thanks a lot for any help. BG2 is still my favourite game ever, and I would really love to go through it again, but it would be half the fun without Eddie!

Thanks,

Brynn

Edited by Brynn, 08 March 2011 - 01:06 PM.

[Brynn]

Hi,

Thanks for your reply! I'm glad that people still know what I'm talking about when I mention Baldur's Gate

What you write is reasonable, and he's turned back already so I could live with that. However, nothing I do seems to make the slightest difference. He won't talk, no matter where I go or what I do.

I kicked him out of the party to see what happens to the variables, and guess what! When I went to pick him up in the Copper Coronet, his name was Edwina! He appeared male though and stayed the same when he joined the party again.

I've just noticed that there are local variables too on the "Affects" tab in SK. Does anyone have an idea of what these and the global ones are good for, or which of them should be set to what level to kick the romance off again?


Thanks!

Edited by Brynn, 09 March 2011 - 09:53 AM.

[Aliya]

Awww... don't worry - I'm a hardcore BG fan fro 5 years (AND an Edwin fangirl, yay, I played this mod an AWFUL lot of times) Totally by accident, I've a save game by the point where Degardan visited the party once and EDWINLOVETALKCHECK global is 29 already. (I have BGT and even though it is said that ER doesn't work with BGT, is works marvelously. *spits*)

First and the simplest solution: The 'kiss' talk will appear when resting in an INN (excluding Vyatri's Pub in Trademeet - it's buggy) Try sleeping in Seven Flagons.

Second the tinkering solution: Hmmm... why should EDWINROMANCEACTIVE be at 2 (devoted romance stage, sets after Edwin turns into a male again and after the kiss talk), while he's a female? Try typing in CLUAConsole (or editing in SK) and setting this global back to 1. When tinker a little ans set EDWINLOVETALKCHECK to 32 - this will immediately force the dialog.

The main variables which are used in the romance is EDWINROMANCEACTIVE (ToB only, should be at 2), EDWINMATCH (should be at 1) and EDWINLOVETALKCHECK (which varies from 2 to 42, even numbers only)

I don't know about kicking out of party accident, tho (I NEVER kicked him out of the party - I just can't ), try reloading and replaying the Degardan change.

Agashi's right considering the flirts. It's confusing because of the girl-to-girl actions. The oyl way to restore the flirts (plus the devoted ones, like kissing and hugging ) is to turn Edwina back to a man again.

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Off-top for you question:
LOCALS are the special version of global but it's used only for one creature - for this instance, it's Edwin. They're setting GLOBALs.
GLOBAL is used when the interaction needs more than one character and script triggering.

Edited by Aliya, 10 March 2011 - 04:49 AM.

[Brynn]

Hi Aliya,

Thanks for the reply!

First and the simplest solution: The 'kiss' talk will appear when resting in an INN (excluding Vyatri's Pub in Trademeet - it's buggy) Try sleeping in Seven Flagons.

Ah!!!! I happened to be precisely in that inn when the change happened! So THAT is the freaking problem!
Thank you so much for this info, I'm pretty sure that reloading the game to an Edwina point and resting somewhere else will solve the problem. Can't wait to get home and test it! By the way, it's FIVE Flagons - but maybe after 5 flagons they do seem seven!

Second the tinkering solution: Hmmm... why should EDWINROMANCEACTIVE be at 2 (devoted romance stage, sets after Edwin turns into a male again and after the kiss talk), while he's a female? Try typing in CLUAConsole (or editing in SK) and setting this global back to 1. When tinker a little ans set EDWINLOVETALKCHECK to 32 - this will immediately force the dialog.

The main variables which are used in the romance is EDWINROMANCEACTIVE (ToB only, should be at 2), EDWINMATCH (should be at 1) and EDWINLOVETALKCHECK (which varies from 2 to 42, even numbers only)

Very useful info again, thanks a lot!

try reloading and replaying the Degardan change.

OK, I'll try that, and I'll be sure to rest somewhere else! Goddamn these country inns, worse than a pigpen, once can't even get a proper love talk there...

Agashi's right considering the flirts. It's confusing because of the girl-to-girl actions. The oyl way to restore the flirts (plus the devoted ones, like kissing and hugging ) is to turn Edwina back to a man again..

It's good to know that it's nothing to be concerned about. Thanks for the clarification!
Thanks a LOT guys, everything you wrote is an enermous help! I'll let you know how things work out - perhaps this could help others in a similar situation.

[Aliya]

It'd happened to me once - the dialog didn't want to jump out the that pub, so I reloaded and went to Atkathla once again.

And-- oops!... I haven't played BG for some time (I'm having a bit of a break), give me a sign if it works/ doesn't work, then.

[Brynn]

Hi again,

Thanks a lot for the help, it works now! I would hug you all if I could squeeze my arms through the ethernet cable!

The trick was to avoid the Trademeet tavern when Edwin was about to change back. I did the druid quests there right after he transformed into a women, then left the place and went questing in the city until Degardan appeared for the second time. Next time we rested in Athkatla the LT worked fine. I also got another LT since then. Yippee!

One thing though, he took a lock of my hair while he was still Edwina, but never got back to me on the subject. I'm not sure if I'm missing something here, or is this gonna come up later?

Thanks again!

[Aliya]

The hair talk will pop up - in time. The talks follow like this:

Spoiler

Hair -> Degardan Second Appearance -> Kiss (At resting) -> The truth -> Night together (At resting) -> Hair talk -> TERL