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[SConrad]

I guess I need a history lesson...?

Oooh, my favorite topic: SHS history. Which of course is derived from IE modding history in general.

Basically, it goes like "flamewar, flamewar, fracture, flamewar, flamewar, fracture, flamewar, explosion, flamewar, fracture, flamewar, flamewar, the long kiss goodbye." I might have missed a flamewar or fracture somewhere there, but it's more or less accurate.

SHS started out as Forgotten Wars Studios, which then became Forgotten Wars. I got handed the keys in 2005, after which another flamewar erupted, and we became SHS. That was over 6 years ago now. I handed the reins to K'aeloree in late 2006.

Obviously, there's a lot more to it. There's a lot of people involved--some of which I miss, others which I don't. I'm not going to name any names, other than to say that a delightful young man named MPrilla was instrumental to every single breakthrough in scripting.

[SConrad]

Also, the fact that the SHS birthday thread has "fo' shizzle" in its title makes me want to regress so badly that I think I'll disappear for another several months.

[Kaeloree]

My plan... it is working!

[SConrad]

I tell you, this place has gone nowhere but downhill since that K'aeloree fellow took over. There's not a flamewar in sight and neither is MPrilla.

[Eleima]

Oooh, how did I miss this? Happy birthday, SHS, thank you for helping me discover all those wonderful mods and people!!
Also, congratulations ChooChoo!!!

And I, for one, am glad for the lack of flamewars!

[Sam.]

Basically, it goes like "flamewar, flamewar, fracture, flamewar, flamewar, fracture, flamewar, explosion, flamewar, fracture, flamewar, flamewar, the long kiss goodbye." I might have missed a flamewar or fracture somewhere there, but it's more or less accurate.

Um, I hesitate to ask, but over what exactly?

[SConrad]

Basically, it goes like "flamewar, flamewar, fracture, flamewar, flamewar, fracture, flamewar, explosion, flamewar, fracture, flamewar, flamewar, the long kiss goodbye." I might have missed a flamewar or fracture somewhere there, but it's more or less accurate.

Um, I hesitate to ask, but over what exactly?

The usual: Power, influence, personality clashes, "we-don't-like-the-way-you-do-things-and-we'll-make-sure-to-let-you-know." There's been a lot of disagreement between communities because of differing opinions. Mod quality, acceptance policies, forum policies (e.g. censorship) and even which modding tools to use have been points of contention. Money's entered into the equation once or twice.

Some (or a lot) of it seems silly today, but believe me when I say that it wasn't back then. Loyalties were questioned, people's pride were on stake and tempers flared.

Then there was MPrilla. A true gentleman, he stepped above and beyond all the flamewars and showed us the right way to treat each other; with respect, and with dignity. And boy could he script.

[Scipio]

Nice of you to pop in, Mr. Conrad. Remind me... who are you?

You left out something important in your potted (not grassed) history of SHS: "... a character named Seb fixed things... " Fo' shizzle, I'll have to ask K'aeloree who Seb is. I believe he isn't warlike in spite of his Viking blood.

[SConrad]

Nice of you to pop in, Mr. Conrad. Remind me... who are you?

Ooooh, cold. So very, very cold.

You left out something important in your potted (not grassed) history of SHS: "... a character named Seb fixed things... " Fo' shizzle, I'll have to ask K'aeloree who Seb is. I believe he isn't warlike in spite of his Viking blood.

If you go back since I started SHS (or possibly even before that), I'd say my tally of "fixing" and "ruining" things for SHS is pretty balanced. And not just technical stuff.

In many ways, this place would have been better off if I hadn't tinkered with certain things. Though at the same time, I'm sure it would have been worse as well.

[Archmage Silver]

You left out something important in your potted (not grassed) history of SHS: "... a character named Seb fixed things... " Fo' shizzle, I'll have to ask K'aeloree who Seb is. I believe he isn't warlike in spite of his Viking blood.

If you go back since I started SHS (or possibly even before that), I'd say my tally of "fixing" and "ruining" things for SHS is pretty balanced. And not just technical stuff.

In many ways, this place would have been better off if I hadn't tinkered with certain things. Though at the same time, I'm sure it would have been worse as well.

Trial and error works. Admit it, you'd be bored if you didn't need to squash some bugs (technical or not) now and then.

Although I must admit that I was never sure whether MPrilla was just a bug in the system or should the label be human malware instead. Maybe you should have hired him to fix all future scripting issues... 'cuz you know, he was liek teh 1337.