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[Argent77]

@Sergio: I'll tell you more via PM.

@Thimblerig: 

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Alas, I ran into a bug:
 
After a fight (this was in a special area for one of Amber's quests, though I don't think that's relevant), Afaaq started pausing in the middle of actions.  When I talk to him he thinks that he is still in the lamp, recuperating.  When hovering the cursor over him he reads as uninjured.  I cannot tell him to get back in the lamp to reset (because he thinks he's already in there).  Using the "You're behaving oddly" dialogue option isn't doing anything I can see.  Resting does not help.
 
I replayed the fight and he got killed and hopped back in the lamp as per normal. 
 
Any suggestions?

That can happen (although very rarely) when one of his script actions are interrupted (e.g. his transformation into a gaseous cloud or his death animation). I've made these actions uninterruptible, but the game engine doesn't seem to care sometimes. If that is happening again, try telling him to "come out of his lamp" to restore his normal behavior. If that doesn't work, select the dialog option "You are behaving oddly. Care to fix it?". This issue is also covered in the Troubleshooting section of the readme.

In the unlikely case that none of the above suggestions are working, you'll have to reset some states and variables of the djinni in a savegame editor. I have yet to come up with a easy to follow instruction how to do it however.

Edited by Argent77, 20 August 2014 - 02:28 AM.

[Thimblerig]

A bitty-piecey report, here:

 

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I've done the whole of the Unseeing Eye, Anomen's first troublesome family encounter, the Circus + Kalah and What He Was Promised, the Fallen Paladins, the Skinner Murders, Nalia's Funeral, and explored the graveyard a little.  Oh, and I blundered into the Twisted Rune, but they wiped out my party in about a second so I went back to an earlier save.

 

Asking Afaaq to come out of the lamp worked after I'd rested - just had to ignore the tooltip that said he was uninjured and it all became clear.  Thanks.

 

Interactions:

 

- He had specific PID advice for the graveyard (warned me about restless dead), the circus (told me the illusions meant there was a genie of great power involved and, afterwards, that we might never know why it all happened), the stench of evil by Kangaxx's tomb, and a disparaging remark about Waukeen's Promenade not being a patch on the markets of his home, which were totally better.( )

- He didn't have much to say about the Unseeing Eye, that I noticed, and didn't want to talk to the rakshasa we met in the Sewers.  He did mention something about strange beasts when we got down to the temple of Amaunator.

- He popped up with a warning about the Twisted Rune when I blundered in there.  I should have listened.

- When the genie asked me that riddle about the prince and princess' ages, he would solve it for me on request (thanks, Afaaq!)

- The follow up on Kalah is from the Unfinished Business mod so I didn't expect him to comment, but I'm just going to imagine him silently beaming when I released the genie.  (Incidentally, when I was proofreading I noticed a line where he would speculate that we might eventually find out what happened.  Since that line doesn't refer to the Kalah's Promise encounter, I'm curious what would trigger it.)

 

EDIT:

 

Oh yes, and when I kicked Viconia out of the party I rose in his regard a third time, though I am unsure whether that was because he just didn't like Vicky, or because my Reputation jumped to Popular.  We're still not confidants, though.

 

Will do some more tomorrow...

 

EDIT:

 

Just took a look at the PID scripting.  So... after dealing with Jafir, the next time I go to the circus he'd talk about what happened to the gnome?  And there's a semi-random chance for either generic advice or something specific?  (I am in awe of your scripting mojo.)  

Edited by Thimblerig, 22 August 2014 - 02:18 AM.

[Argent77]

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Asking Afaaq to come out of the lamp worked after I'd rested - just had to ignore the tooltip that said he was uninjured and it all became clear. Thanks.

I'm glad you were able to solve it. I'm currently trying to put together a WeiDU "repair" mod that will automatically fix situations like this in your saved games. And maybe I can improve his "fixme" dialog line even more.

 

Oh yes, and when I kicked Viconia out of the party I rose in his regard a third time, though I am unsure whether that was because he just didn't like Vicky, or because my Reputation jumped to Popular.

Reaching certain highs or lows in reputation will have some impact on his respect for you. That it happened after kicking out Vicky was just a coincidence.

 

We're still not confidants, though.

This is partly story-dependent. You'll have to wait for certain events to unfold before he decides to tell you more about himself.

 

[Thimblerig]

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I've been wandering around the Docks, looking for the next piece of Nalia's Kidnapped! quest.

 

So far Afaaq sniffed out the Evil Head of Kangaxx, was offered a drink by a sailor, and regretfully refused to grant a beggar's wish.

[Thimblerig]

Have done some more bitty-piecy quests.

 

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Had a chat with Neb about mineral rights and that pesky child-murdering warrant, and confiscated a teddy-bear off Llynis.  Then we visited the Five Flagons and got sucked into the Planar Prison.  Eep!

 

Interactions:

- Afaaq, after being poked for the fifth time, gave some specific advice on the Planar Prison.

- He didn't pop up with any comments, otherwise, but I noticed that his approval went up a tick when I finished the Prison.  Thank goodness - I dislike that area quite intensely so it's good to see something useful come out of it (as well as the Pixie Prick, which I shall have to give Edwin if I recruit him - it seems appropriate)

 

No apparent bugs.

[Argent77]

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Then we visited the Five Flagons and got sucked into the Planar Prison.  Eep!

Did Afaaq have anything to say in Mekrath's home?
 

Interactions:
- Afaaq, after being poked for the fifth time, gave some specific advice on the Planar Prison.
- He didn't pop up with any comments, otherwise, but I noticed that his approval went up a tick when I finished the Prison.  Thank goodness - I dislike that area quite intensely so it's good to see something useful come out of it (as well as the Pixie Prick, which I shall have to give Edwin if I recruit him - it seems appropriate)

The best way to make a good impression on the djinni is by liberating the enslaved, releasing the imprisoned and helping the oppressed.

Btw, did you install the second beta?

 

No apparent bugs.

I like that.

[Thimblerig]

Oh, thanks for the reminder - I'd downloaded it but forgotten to install.  It installed without any issues. 

 

Yes, Afaaq gave me a warning in Mekrath's lair - I did that part of the quest on the way to the Unseeing Eye ages ago, and forgot about it.

 

Would it be possible to increase the probability of the Area-specific advice talks?  Some of them only come up because I figure there absolutely has to be something and keep poking Afaaq until he spills.

 

And, is there a specific trigger for the Friendship talks to start?  Or do I go around doing things that he likes until he's convinced I'm a Good Person?

Edited by Thimblerig, 29 August 2014 - 07:02 PM.

[Argent77]

Would it be possible to increase the probability of the Area-specific advice talks?  Some of them only come up because I figure there absolutely has to be something and keep poking Afaaq until he spills.

It's doable, but a lot of work. I'll see if I can come up with a better ratio.

 

And, is there a specific trigger for the Friendship talks to start?  Or do I go around doing things that he likes until he's convinced I'm a Good Person?

Afaaq's growing (or waning) respect for you is mostly relevant in a pivotal event in the future. I haven't really coded a friendship path yet and only very few conversations or actions are influenced by it.

[Thimblerig]

Sorry for the delay in posting - I hadn't been playing much, lately, and he didn't have much to say.

 

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Completed Keldorn's Family Quest, and a couple of minor stronghold quests (the de'Arnise guard who was caught stealing, and the nobleman searching for mithral around the Shadow Temple).  Chose the peaceful and generous options all around.

 

No noticeable interactions.

One of the boys in the Government District wanted to hire Afaaq as a guard.  He declined.

[Argent77]

Afaaq hasn't much to say about the stronghold quests in general. He'll become more talkative again when you're making progress in the main quest.
 

[Argent77]

So far it seems to be working fine.

 

I have only found Yuan-ti Wardstones 1 and 3 so far, but I am hoping that it is me not finding them and not a bug.

Wardstone 2 may be a bit difficult to find. I can only advise you to try clicking on everything you can find on the map that is clickable and you'll find it out eventually.
You'll get Wardstone 4 only after activating wardstones 1 to 3.
 

 

Don't know if this is an incompatability.

 

Was finding defeating the shard at the top of the tower of deception impossible. I then clicked on the lamp and it died immediately. I think that it only dies if it is alone with your party. You have to kill its guardian first, before it dies.

I've never played "Tower of Deception", so I can't comment on it. But unless it rewrites or overwrites major parts of vanilla content, it should not affect or be affected by the Djinni Companion mod.
 

[Argent77]

A very minor problem is that he often stops before reaching the point that I want him to go to and I therefore have to tell him 2 or 3 times before he reaches that location. I am presuming that he stops at the end of a turn rather than continuing as a party member would.

It sound very much like the djinni attempts to execute some scripted action every few rounds which doesn't succeed. Do you know when he started this behavior?

 

If you can provide me with a savegame, I can try to find out the cause. (I'm not sure if you can attach files to a post in this forum without logging in. Alternatively you can do it in this topic.)