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#1 danger007

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Posted 30 September 2014 - 09:24 PM

I haven't been able to find an answer to this so I guess I would pose it.

 

Right now the Baldurs Gate Trilogy Weidu (using it on a gog version of BG1 and 2) and selected parts equals about 10 steps/programs to install.  what happens when one of those parts gets a new version or sub version (1.0 to 2.0 or 1.0 to 1.5 respectively) in terms of the installation.  Since each step builds upon a previous step, do I have to uninstall everything and then reinstall the base game,, then the BGT and the other parts.  I am running into that sometimes that by the time I get part way through a game, there is a new version/sub-version that updates or fixes an issue.  I just wondered if the weidu part is designed to allow updates to parts without having to reinstall.  Or do I have to only reinstall the parts that come after it (those that for example say install "after")?

 

this would really be helpful and a timesaver.

 

Good work and incredible job, keep it up.  Maybe in 30 years someone will actually do a full reboot with the most modern gear in mind and tech and build it from the ground up.



#2 The Imp

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Posted 30 September 2014 - 11:56 PM

Well, with mods like BGT-weidu, it's pretty stable from the start, there's no actual need to reinstall everything ever.. but yeah, if you wish to use the very last version of mods, you have to. And what's this "10 steps/programs to install." There's about 500 compatible mods and they have sub components, you are no where near a BWS'es constant update scope.
Yeah, or you could just use the community created BWS and learn how it works, and if it suits your appetite, use it to make your install
And you are about a year already on "the full reboot with the most modern gear in mind"... there's Enhanced Edition of the BG1, BG2 and there's IwD coming soonish...


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#3 danger007

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Posted 01 October 2014 - 01:39 PM

I mean a total reboot recreating the engine, game, everything from the ground up.  I have read too many negative things about the BGEE versions of 1 and 2.  Plus one magazine said what I had thought, that you can get the mods that do about the same thing if not better and it won't have as many bugs or issues.   Think PC Gamer said that when the 1st one came out.

 

Back to the "10 Steps/programs to install".  When I read the docs I notice there was a great deal of incompat between certain mods and how one mod would create a change in another and so on.  About 2 or 3 years ago I had given the BP a try.  However it was more failure on my end than success.  Was sad I couldn't get it to work, but I knew it was something I was doing wrong and that nothing was wrong with BP.  So I stuck with BG2 + Exp + The Darkest Day and BG1 + Exp + The Dark Side of the Sword Coast.

 

Yes, I would love to add many of the other mods but since I am not fully into the mod/weidu picture thing, most of this is above my head.  I only this past month for example installed the Freespace Open Source Project.  It was like the BP in complexity for installing for me (I had the retail versions of the games and wanted to push my graphic card more than it was).  The problem was having to know certain commands needed to be started at certain places and files moved here and there.  When I checked back in about a month ago they had created an installer package, that installed the current version of the Open Source, with all the mods, etc, and configured it just right to play.

 

I quickly read over the FAQ page for BWS/BWP, some I could follow some I couldn't.  Since I am not a modder, I don't know if I could honestly follow along without screwing up, hence the reason I am only at about 10 programs/mods as they were essentially the ones suggested via the GOG guide that was published.  I figured if they put them together they must have got them to work.  Sure I would love to load up the game with the addons/mods/tc's etc., I am worry after spending two hours of getting everything installed, it won't run.



#4 The Imp

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Posted 01 October 2014 - 02:32 PM

I quickly read over the FAQ page for BWS/BWP, some I could follow some I couldn't.
Well, yeah, the FAQ is a bit techsavy stuff, but it covers nearly all the possible contingencies ...
You are meant to install the BG2 game with a full install, patch it if it's needed, and then just download the BWS tool (current version being the bws_20140909.exe ), and follow it it's instructions on the screen... and come ask at the forum if you come up with a question you can't find an answer to in the program.
 
...as they were essentially the ones suggested via the GOG guide that was published.
Yeah, the thing with that guide if it's the one I know of, is really bad as it didn't say in which order to install the mods with ... I actually commented about it in there. As you actually have to do it in the correct order if you do the installation manually !
The BWS will do all the downloading, extracting and installing for you, as long as it's allowed to(as you need to follow the instructions so it can compile the list of mods you want it to install, and then process them, with fixes that you won't find elsewhere and so on).
I mean a total reboot recreating the engine, game, everything from the ground up.
Well, even a year old moded game is old if you wish to want to use the very latest of mods.
So yeah. You got to, kinda, the BWS actually has an option that makes a backup of the game files and so you can reset the game to a non moded state at a push of a few options when you start the program again. So the only thing you'll loose is your mind, sanity and a few hours of your time and few less gigabytes of download spasage. Ouh, and the first two were never worth much to me... :devil:

Edited by The Imp, 01 October 2014 - 02:50 PM.

Yep, Jarno Mikkola. my Mega Mod FAQ. Use of the BWS, and how to use it(scroll down that post a bit). 
OK, desert dweller, welcome to the sanity, you are free to search for the limit, it's out there, we drew it in the sand. Ouh, actually it was still snow then.. but anyways.






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