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[CaptEHCJ]

So, I'm progressing through a solo playthrough of a "standard" BWP build.  <Charname> is a F/T/M and I am enjoying it.  Except - I just got to HLAs.  The selection of HLAs that is provided for a F/T/M is... um... not what I would have chosen.  My first question is, did a mod change these selections or is this actually the default selection of HLAs? 

 

Additionally, is there any way to change the selection of HLAs?  Just my opinion but the selection is seriously lacking.  No critical strike, no Use Any Item, etc.   But, we can certainly make scrolls and potions!  <coughs>   :-(  

[zerguu]

It is Refinements Mod

[CaptEHCJ]

Well Shazbat!  So, can one UN-install a mod and keep playing a given game?  I really don't want to start over.  Worst case scenario, can I delete and re-install a new BWP game excluding this mod, then go to my saves and pick up where I left off? 

[The Imp]

Well Shazbat!  So, can one UN-install a mod and keep playing a given game?

Not the Refinement mod.

You'll have to restart the whole game.

 

It would be better to just edit the HLA table allocation file which is the luabbr.2da -file with Near Infinity. And the file itself what ever it's set to be as.

Edited by The Imp, 15 February 2016 - 12:07 PM.

[CaptEHCJ]

Thanks Imp.  So, I am willing to try, but in my experience, NI is not user-friendly at all.  So...

 

I open the file:  C:\Games\Black Isle\BGII - SoA\generalized_biffing\prod\0\biffs\149\luabbr.2da  in a new window.   (Correct?)

 

I am now looking at the following, which honestly does not mean much to me:

 

2DA                 V1.0
*
ABBREV
MAGE
FIGHTER             Fi0
CLERIC              Cl0
THIEF               Th0
BARD                Ba0
PALADIN             Pa0
DRUID               Dr0
RANGER              Ra0
FIGHTER_MAGE        FM0
FIGHTER_CLERIC      FC0
FIGHTER_THIEF       FT0
FIGHTER_MAGE_THIEF  FMT
MAGE_THIEF          MT0
CLERIC_MAGE         CM0
CLERIC_THIEF        CT0
FIGHTER_DRUID       FD0
FIGHTER_MAGE_CLERIC FMC
CLERIC_RANGER       CR0
ABJURER             Ma2
CONJURER            Ma6
DIVINER             Ma5
ENCHANTER           Ma9
ILLUSIONIST         Ma8
INVOKER             Ma7
NECROMANCER         Ma3
TRANSMUTER          Ma4
BERSERKER           Fi2
WIZARD_SLAYER       Fi3
KENSAI              Fi4
CAVALIER            Pa2
INQUISITOR          Pa3
UNDEAD_HUNTER       Pa4
FERALAN             Ra2
STALKER             Ra3
BEASTMASTER         Ra4
ASSASIN             Th2
BOUNTY_HUNTER       Th3
SWASHBUCKLER        Th4
BLADE               Ba2
JESTER              Ba3
SKALD               Ba4
TOTEMIC_DRUID       Dr2
SHAPESHIFTER        Dr3
BEAST_FRIEND        Dr4
TALOS               Cl2
HELM                Cl3
LATHANDER           Cl4
MONK                Mo0
BARBARIAN           BRB
WILDMAGE            WMG
SORCERER            SRC
ESxKit              Cl0
m#ambkit            m#a
PitFighter          Fi0
LK#YK               Cl0
lkneph              Cl0
IK_BATTLERAGER      fi0
IK_EDWIN_KIT        ma0
IK_ADVENTURER       th0
IK_TRUESWORD        fi0
IK_DEATHBRINGER     fi0
trueres               Th0
magetw               Ma0
shaptw               Dr3
shaptF               Dr3
bladetw               Ba2
BERSERKERtF               Fi2
BERSERKERtw               Fi2
WIZARDSLAYERtF               Fi3
WIZARDSLAYERtw               Fi3
KENSAItF               Fi4
KENSAItw               Fi4
ASSASINtF               Th2
ASSASINtw               Th2
BOUNTYHUNTERtF               Th3
BOUNTYHUNTERtw               Th3
SWASHBUCKLERtF               Th4
SWASHBUCKLERtw               Th4
GODTALOStF               Cl2
GODTALOStw               Cl2
GODHELMtF               Cl3
GODHELMtw               Cl3
GODLATHANDERtF               Cl4
GODLATHANDERtw               Cl4
ESxKittF               Cl0
ESxKittw               Cl0
m#ambkittF               m#a
m#ambkittw               m#a
PitFightertF               Fi0
PitFightertw               Fi0
LK#YKtF               Cl0
LK#YKtw               Cl0
IK_BATTLERAGERtF               fi0
IK_BATTLERAGERtw               fi0
IK_ADVENTURERtF               th0
IK_ADVENTURERtw               th0
IK_TRUESWORDtF               fi0
IK_TRUESWORDtw               fi0
IK_DEATHBRINGERtF               fi0
IK_DEATHBRINGERtw               fi0
truerestF               Th0
truerestw               Th0
 

 

The text is not edit-able.  And it is close to greek anyway.  Where to go from here? 

 

If the process is simply too complex to describe... I can choose to live with it or re-start.  Thanks in advance for any advice and/or assistance. 

 

CaptEHCJ

[The Imp]

FIGHTER_MAGE_THIEF FMT

Line will tell you that the file you are looking for should be the lufmt.2da ... for the fighter mage thief triple class.

The text is not edit-able.  And it is close to greek anyway.  Where to go from here? 

Grehm, actually it is very editable. It's just a text file, so Notepad can do it with ease. ... but that's not the point. The above will give you the file you need to edit. And then put the edited file into the override folder (C:\Games\Black Isle\BGII - SoA\override\ -folder)
The question is, what do you wish to have it edited as ? Which HLA do you want ?

Edited by The Imp, 15 February 2016 - 12:27 PM.

[CaptEHCJ]

I would like to simply add Critical Strike and Use Any Item - those are the two main ones.  I would also like to get Improved Alacrity, and maybe extra level 6, 7, and 8 spells if there is room.  I would gladly drop alchemy, scribe scrolls, as well as Foresight, Ages, Energy Blades, and Death Field.  

 

AND, you are absolutely correct.  I can open the 2DA file in notepad and edit it just fine.  Hmm.. and if I had a cross-reference of what each of those ability codes were, you are right.. I could easily change them.   Getting it read-able in notepad is tricky but cross-referencing that with the nice view in NI makes it do-able.  :-) 

Edited by CaptEHCJ, 15 February 2016 - 12:43 PM.

[CaptEHCJ]

Ok.. I have made a cross-reference of HLAs by creating a Fighter, Mage, and Thieft in ToB, then ShadoKeeper-ing them to 3.2Mil xp, then seeing the HLAs available.  I dropped those in an Excel spreadsheet.  I then added the "names" of each HLA from lufmt.2da and the respective Fighter.2da, Thief.2da, and Mage.2da.  I then compared them to the FTM to confirm that I was going about this right and found that the "names" from the three respective classes DO correspond to the appropriate skills of the FTM.  Tomorrow when I have time i will actually modify the luftm.2da file and try it out.  {hope all that was slightly clearer than mud!}

 

I will note that it seems the folks who did the refinements mod completely REMOVED the "Use Any Item" skill.  The pure thief did NOT have it in her list of HLAs.  Bummer but not that big a deal I suppose.  As a FTM I can use most things anyway.  I was just hoping to have access to.. well, everything.  :-) 

 

If you actually have a cross-reference for these items which would include the "Use any Item" I would sure appreciate it.  Thanks!

 

CaptEHCJ. 

[The Imp]

If you actually have a cross-reference for these items which would include the "Use any Item" I would sure appreciate it.  Thanks!

Do you mean the AP_SPCL915 ... ability, that casts the spl915.spl to your character, which is effectively the Use Any Items ... or ? To my memory, the Refinements won't overwrite the spell, it just doesn't put it to be available, like the readme says.
Items you can't use, paladin stuff, druid stuff, cleric stuff, bard stuff... monk (exclusive to those classes, like ).

Edited by The Imp, 15 February 2016 - 05:47 PM.

[CaptEHCJ]

Whoot... works as advertised!  Thanks tons Imp!!   It took a bit of work but changed it all up and have access to the HLAs that I was looking forward to now.  Yay, I can wield and wear that whatever I want now.. muhaha!