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[Shuv-Oohl]

It may be caused by the intent to spawn a hostile creature (like shadow etc.).
You should try to spawn all possible creatures via "CreateCreature" in CLUAConsole and see if CTD occurs
at a particular cre.

To find all possible creatures just revise the relevant bcs files of the mages cre file You are struggling with,
i.e. override.bcs, default.bcs etc. and find out, what cres he likes to spawn via script.
The more mages causing a CTD You have (within the same installation) and the closer You look at the
circumstances under which the CTD occurs (e.g. which spell preceeds the CTD) the better You are able to
narrow the search down to just a couple of cres You have to spawn.

If it's not a cre spawning problem then it may be an eff problem but I doubt.

[Shuv-Oohl]

Did You revise the bcs files of these mages (or liches)?

 

The spells that are listed as "known spells" in the cre file are completely irrelevant

if their behaviour, as usual, is governed by these scripts that I mentioned.

 

By EFF I was thinking of a file for an effect. But I still doubt that.

[Shuv-Oohl]

I'm used to work with NI (Near Infinity) that can be found on this site in /Modding/IE Modding Tools.

 

Yes, exactly about these scripts I was talking: override, class, default etc.

Now, hopefully not all of these scripts contain thousands of lines and moreover there should

be some scripts in common. Nevertheless You're right stressing the need of an efficient way to search.

 

Look for the string createcre in the scripts (via the button "Find.."  and "in this script only" at the bottom).

The search result should give You the necessary information.

 

 

Well, now I installed DLTCEP and of course You can do the same thing with this tool if You like.

I guess You got the point: We're looking for "CreateCreature......." strings in the scripts, we create these creatures

via CLUA  like e.g. 'CreateCreature("SKELWA")' on purpose and we hope for a CTD at one or more of these spawnings.

Edited by Shuv-Oohl, 18 October 2016 - 08:35 AM.

[Shuv-Oohl]

Did You search in all scripts of at least one mage or in just one script assuming it to contain the error?
If all but one script just contain a couple of lines and You see that there is no "CreateCreatureObject("...")" in the short scripts
then the latter is a valid option. If not then only the former is a valid strategy.

If we can exclude after careful inspection the spawning of creatures as the culprit then we're of course getting closer.
The next candidate is a targeting problem. Some time ago there was a missing "preset target" info in the spell effects
that caused CTDs with error messages similar to Your. Finally it was the 'Flesh to Stone' spell.

So now You have to ensure that the targeted spells used by Amon really have the info needed.

[Shuv-Oohl]

I'm running an install on base of Youre WeiDU to see, if I can reproduce the CTD and in order to analyze the problem.

 

ok, While i could not reproduce a CTD with Amon I finally achieved the same error in the fight against Dracandros.

Please try the following in order to reproduce the crash:

Let Your mage chant "Khelben's Warding Whip" on someone (the target may  as well be a party member).

The scroll is "SCRL8H.itm". Does it provoke a CTD?

Edited by Shuv-Oohl, 21 October 2016 - 09:01 PM.

[The Imp]

There you go! I can confirm a CTD when casting Khelbens Warding Whip with exactly the error message expected. So we have narrowed it down to the spell, but what could be done about it?

--change-log the spell (spwi705.spl, if my notes are correct ) and see which mod created the crash by using the --change-log created backups in game for the checking.

[Shuv-Oohl]

Copy the file "SPWI705.spl" from /spell_rev/backup/0/

to the folder /override/ in Your BG2 folder and the problem should be solved.

[The Imp]

Can you check if the "SPWI705.spl" from /!BInfinitySounds/Backup/1/ -works ? As that's the other other backup and if it works, then it's not SR but that mod, that's faulty.

Edited by The Imp, 22 October 2016 - 10:53 AM.

[The Imp]

Did as you requested. Dropped the spell file from the !BInfinitySound-Backup into the override folder (after deleting the previously inserted one), started the game, cast KWW and ... CTD! Same error message as before.

Please help me understand: What does this prove? I thought, the backup files are the original ones moved there when installing the mod. But then both files from the backups should be ok. As you expected the outcome, my assumption is probably wrong, but why?

Well, weidu copies the file the game currently uses to backups so it can easily restore the file from it during uninstall. This proves that the SR is the faulty party. So... bug reported.