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#1 jastey

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Posted 07 May 2018 - 11:07 PM

The mods are categorized into types: for BGT-BWP there is 20 (distinguishing between e.g. BG1 NPC mods and BGII NPC mods)

For non BWP-games it's 13.

As far as I can see, it's 13 for: BGII, BGII:EE, BG:EE - but also EET.

Wouldn't it be more useful to use the 20-categories for EET, too (i.e. inside the BigWorldSetup\App\Config\BG2EE\InstallOrder.ini?)

Example: Ajantis BG1 Expansion pack is tagged "07 (NPC-Related Mods)" in both BG1EE\InstallOrder.ini and BG2EE\InstallOrder.ini, but "05 (BG1 NPC-Related Mods)" in BWP\InstallOrder.ini.

Edited by jastey, 07 May 2018 - 11:07 PM.


#2 jastey

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Posted 08 May 2018 - 05:08 AM

I see. In case you might decide to go for unification I'd be all for it.

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Posted 10 May 2018 - 01:57 PM

From Roxanne's commit to EE Setup Tool:

 

Drake crossbow needs main component=D:drake(1):drake(0)

 

Wouldn't we need this for every mod out there?

 

bg1re components 1 to x need component 0

Ajantis BG2 component 1 and 2 need component 0

Breagar component 1 needs component 0

bg1npc project components 1 to x need component 0

 

etcpp?

 

EDIT: Ah, I see it's partly integrated: from BWP\Game.ini:

 

All NTotSC components require core component=D:NTotSC(-):NTotSC(0)

 

I think there are still some missing, though.


Edited by jastey, 10 May 2018 - 02:02 PM.


#4 jastey

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Posted 10 May 2018 - 02:04 PM

They have to be or there would be lots of error messages. I just don't understand yet how. I edited my above post because I found such definitions of dependencies, but not for all mods that come to my mind.



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Posted 19 May 2018 - 08:36 AM

For bg1re, the 0th component needs to be installed for the others. Also, if a certain choice is made, some of the others shouldn't be installed (i.e. if components with warnings should be skipped they should be skipped during install.) This would be a conflict that would need to be specified, I fear?

#6 jastey

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Posted 20 May 2018 - 11:47 AM

For bg1re, the 0th component needs to be installed for the others. Also, if a certain choice is made, some of the others shouldn't be installed (i.e. if components with warnings should be skipped they should be skipped during install.)This would be a conflict that would need to be specified, I fear?
I managed to do it myself! (Wohoo! I feel so smart.)
This is what I used:
bg1re - all components need component "0" (install choices)=D:bg1re(-):bg1re((0?0_1|0?0_2|0?0_3)&(0?1_1|0?1_2))
bg1re - all components with adult content need Install choice "BG-style" or "Descriptive version" of component "0"=D:bg1re(12|13|24|25|38|39):bg1re(0?0_2|0?0_3)
bg1re - all components with trigger warnings content need Install choice "Show/install all components" of component "0"=D:bg1re(3|12|13|27|30|38):bg1re(0?1_2)
It won't fill in or empty boxes automatically, but it will give a conflict warning if components are ticked.

For the first one, D:bg1re(-):bg1re(0) would probably also do the trick.

#7 jastey

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Posted 20 May 2018 - 12:54 PM

What exactly are the Mod.ini and all the WeiDU-xx.ini for, and more important, do they have to be changed by hand as well, or do they get their info from the global/[mod].ini? EDIT: OK I noticed they are updated upon execution so I guess they are filled automatically.

Edited by jastey, 20 May 2018 - 02:04 PM.


#8 jastey

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Posted 20 May 2018 - 02:08 PM

I have a question to MUC.

For Keldorn Romance, it's "Init":
MUC;keldorn_rom;Init;14;0111;
MUC;keldorn_rom;1;14;0111;
MUC;keldorn_rom;2;14;0000;
MUC;keldorn_rom;3;14;0000;
MUC;keldorn_rom;4;14;0000;
And in the example of the BWS Documentation, it's "Select":

MUC;scs;Select;16;1111;
MUC;scs;1000;16;0000;
MUC;scs;1001;16;1111;
What exactly do these mean?

#9 Mirandel

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Posted 21 May 2018 - 04:04 AM

Total off-topic: this thread is like a diary of you studying BWS's little secrets - very interesting to follow :)



#10 jastey

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Posted 21 May 2018 - 04:44 AM

Heh. :)

To my above question: The "Select" seems to be outdated, it's "Init" for all "MUC" as far as I can see. (I still don't understand it entirely but if I can work with it I am content.)

Edited by jastey, 21 May 2018 - 04:44 AM.


#11 jastey

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Posted 04 June 2018 - 11:59 AM

Thanks, I noticed in teh meantime that "Select" is no longer used in the inis.

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Damn, just when I got used to working with GitHub: https://blog.github....thub-microsoft/
This is bad!

Edited by jastey, 04 June 2018 - 11:59 AM.


#12 Cahir

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Posted 04 June 2018 - 12:10 PM

Damn, just when I got used to working with GitHub: https://blog.github....thub-microsoft/
This is bad!

 

Yeah, but would this really changes anything with functioning of Github? I really don't think it would.



#13 jastey

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Posted 04 June 2018 - 12:54 PM

@ALIEN That's an interesting point of view. Thank you. Still, I am nervous about giving some / any (copy)right of my work to such a huge company.

#14 Hack'N'Slash

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 12:40 AM

I'll have a look into Git and see how things are done but for now @Alien I have a slight edit to 09_Install.au3 on line 954. changing ini to lua for the IWD 2.5 version. 

 

Attached File  IWDEE2.5.7z   16.47K   180 downloads


Edited by Hack'N'Slash, 05 June 2018 - 12:40 AM.


#15 jastey

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 01:57 AM

Thanks, Hack'N'Slash, BWS is updated with the fix.

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 11:03 PM

Latest BWS needs a couple of ini files changed. Plus i tried to run the mod generator tool on a couple of mods. not yet included(Southern Edge and Skie - Cost of One Girl's Soul). Please let me know if I'm on the right path or not...Attached File  BWSUpdates.7z   2.13K   190 downloads



#17 jastey

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 11:57 PM

Mazzy Friendship has a German version now, too.
[Description] only needs the English one (SouthernEdge)

Yes, looks good all in all!

If you'd work via GitHub it would be a real time saver. :)

Edited by jastey, 05 June 2018 - 11:57 PM.


#18 The Imp

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 01:11 AM

If you'd work via GitHub it would be a real time saver. :)

For the modmaker yes, but download it 1000 times with all the other mods in GitHub and you are actually slowing EVERYONES install times. As there are multoiplesources of mods, and downloading them from a single one is the worst for speeds perspective. 


Edited by The Imp, 06 June 2018 - 01:03 PM.

Yep, Jarno Mikkola. my Mega Mod FAQ. Use of the BWS, and how to use it(scroll down that post a bit). 
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#19 Hack'N'Slash

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 02:35 AM

I will get around to learning Github......