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#1 The Elder Brain

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 06:44 AM

Hello all. I feel like I am posting issues way too much here. I am trying to deal with things on my own and I actually manage most of the time. This one is something I have never ran  into before. All items in TDD are not droppable. I have read NI can fix this and I am fiddling with it to see if I can figure out how to work it, but I wanted to see if there is a solution that is more straight forwards. Like using ee keeper or something more my level first. Any help would be great

 

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#2 The Imp

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 06:53 AM

You probably installed a mod that changed all the itrems into this... so don't install the "balance mod". The reason for the "balancing" is that you normally would get some of the dublicated from the nonTDD content, and then there's the OP items, spells etc that are removed because they are just that, OVER POWERED !


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#3 Creepin

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:08 AM

Hello all. I feel like I am posting issues way too much here.
Not to worry, this IS place for questions :)
All items in TDD are not droppable.
Like, ALL all items? Even mundane/quest/not-owerpowered? Then this should not be the doing of a balancer of any kind. Not sure what causes it though.

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#4 Lemmy

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 09:39 AM

Hello all. I feel like I am posting issues way too much here. I am trying to deal with things on my own and I actually manage most of the time. This one is something I have never ran  into before. All items in TDD are not droppable. I have read NI can fix this and I am fiddling with it to see if I can figure out how to work it, but I wanted to see if there is a solution that is more straight forwards. Like using ee keeper or something more my level first. Any help would be great

 

Thanks

In the other post yesterday you said you use bg2ee?

Did you use the TDDz to install TDD? You would just download and extract TDD without installing and afterwards download and extract TDDz. Then you use the TDDz setup to install the mod.


Edited by Lemmy, 15 May 2018 - 09:40 AM.


#5 The Elder Brain

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 12:04 PM

I am using the ee tool so its doing the install for me. As for the items its only the TDD specific ones like giants grace for instance, or any weapon found in trollford. As for TDDZ I selected it...here is my logs. Mega mods are hit and miss for me and I am tired of reinstalls. I got to learn to fix this damn it!!!.

 

// Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods
// The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod
// ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number // [Subcomponent Name -> ] Component Name [ : Version]
~SETUP-WEIDU.TP2~ #0 #0 // 24500
~EET/EET.TP2~ #0 #0 // EET core - resource importation: 1.0 RC9.2
~DSOTSC/DSOTSC.TP2~ #0 #0 // Dark Side of the Sword Coast (DSotSC): v3.0 beta
~DSOTSC/DSOTSC.TP2~ #0 #1 // DSotSC Wizard spells: v3.0 beta
~DSOTSC/DSOTSC.TP2~ #0 #2 // DSotSC Priest spells: v3.0 beta
~DSOTSC/DSOTSC.TP2~ #0 #3 // More common encounters in vanilla areas: v3.0 beta
~DSOTSC/DSOTSC.TP2~ #0 #4 // Distribute DSotSC items also in vanilla content: v3.0 beta
~NTOTSC/NTOTSC.TP2~ #0 #0 // Northern Tales of the Sword Coast (NTotSC) for BGT-Weidu, BG:EE, and EET: 2.2.2
~NTOTSC/NTOTSC.TP2~ #0 #1 // Keelor the Dwarf: 2.2.2
~NTOTSC/NTOTSC.TP2~ #0 #2 // Llindellyn's Lucky Arrow: 2.2.2
~NTOTSC/NTOTSC.TP2~ #0 #3 // Nim Furlwing's Hunting Hounds: 2.2.2
~NTOTSC/NTOTSC.TP2~ #0 #4 // Pilar and Gheldehar: 2.2.2
~BONEHILLEET/SETUP-BONEHILLEET.TP2~ #0 #0 // Secret of BoneHill (EET): v30 EET
~TDDZ/SETUP-TDDZ.TP2~ #0 #0 // TDD - Core: v1.2.5
~TDDZ/SETUP-TDDZ.TP2~ #0 #1 // TDD - Trollford: v1.2.5
~TDDZ/SETUP-TDDZ.TP2~ #0 #2 // TDD - Eshpurta: v1.2.5
~TDDZ/SETUP-TDDZ.TP2~ #0 #3 // TDD - Purskal: v1.2.5
~TDDZ/SETUP-TDDZ.TP2~ #0 #4 // TDD - Riatavin: v1.2.5
~TDDZ/SETUP-TDDZ.TP2~ #0 #5 // TDD - Onset of the Darkest Day: v1.2.5
~SOS/SETUP-SOS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Shadows Over Soubar: 1.14
~THALAN/THALAN.TP2~ #0 #0 // Thalantyr - Item Upgrade: v4.2.1
~ASCENSION/SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #0 // Ascension Core (requires ToB): v1.51 BETA BWP 20170519
~ASCENSION/SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #103 // Restored Bhaalspawn Powers by David Gaider: v1.51 BETA BWP 20170519
~ASCENSION/SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #104 // Extended Epilogues for Bioware NPCs by shawne: v1.51 BETA BWP 20170519
~ASCENSION/SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #105 // Extended Epilogues for Beamdog NPCs by shawne: v1.51 BETA BWP 20170519
~TOD/SETUP-TOD.TP2~ #0 #0 // Tower Of Deception Mod (Requires Throne Of Bhaal): v4.0.1
~DC/SETUP-DC.TP2~ #0 #0 // Dungeon Crawl: v10.0
~INNERSHADE/SETUP-INNERSHADE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Colours of Infinity: Innershade -> Yes, but don't patch the existing save games: 9.5
~WHITEQUEEN/WHITEQUEEN.TP2~ #0 #0 // Colours of Infinity - The White Queen -> Yes, but don't patch the existing save games: 6.6
~ISNF/ISNF.TP2~ #0 #0 // Colours of Infinity: I Shall Never Forget: 5.6
~EILISTRAEE/SETUP-EILISTRAEE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Eilistraee's Song -> Yes, but don't patch the existing save games: 6.6
~FISHINGFORTROUBLE/FISHINGFORTROUBLE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Core Files: Fishing for Trouble by Yovaneth: 3.2.1
~FISHINGFORTROUBLE/FISHINGFORTROUBLE.TP2~ #0 #1 // Optional: Add portraits for 63 major NPCs in Fishing for Trouble: 3.2.1
~AJANTISBG2/SETUP-AJANTISBG2.TP2~ #1 #0 // Sir Ajantis NPC for BGII: 15.6 beta
~LUCY/SETUP-LUCY.TP2~ #0 #0 // Lucy the Wyvern: v4 BWP Fix
~SETUP-SLANDOR.TP2~ #1 #0 // The Minotaur and Lilacor: 1.6 BWP Fix
~UB/UB.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Kidnapping of Boo by Cliffette: v27beta
~UB/UB.TP2~ #0 #1 // The Suna Seni/Valygar Relationship: v27beta
~UB/UB.TP2~ #0 #2 // Kalah and What He Was Promised: v27beta
~UB/UB.TP2~ #0 #4 // Gorje Hilldark and the Extended Illithium Quest: v27beta
~UB/UB.TP2~ #0 #5 // The Pai'Na/Spider's Bane Quest: v27beta
~UB/UB.TP2~ #0 #6 // Restored Crooked Crane Inn: v27beta
~UB/UB.TP2~ #0 #7 // Restored Encounters: v27beta
~UB/UB.TP2~ #0 #8 // Artemis Entreri in Bodhi's Lair: v27beta
~UB/UB.TP2~ #0 #9 // Corrected "Xzar's Creations": v27beta
~UB/UB.TP2~ #0 #10 // Restored Hell Minions, by SimDing0: v27beta
~WHEELS/SETUP-WHEELS.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Wheels of Prophecy: v6
~SONG_AND_SILENCE/SETUP-SONG_AND_SILENCE.TP2~ #0 #1 // Add new bardic store and thief items: v6 BWP Fix
~EET_TWEAKS/EET_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2002 // Total XP CAP -> Disabled: 1.7
~EET_TWEAKS/EET_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2041 // XP for Traps, Spells and Lockpicking -> BG2 values: 1.7
~EET_TWEAKS/EET_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2052 // XP for killing creatures -> Decrease to 50%: 1.7
~EET_TWEAKS/EET_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2062 // XP for quests -> Decrease to 50%: 1.7
~EET_TWEAKS/EET_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2070 // Party XP for quests distributed individually: 1.7
~EET_TWEAKS/EET_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4060 // Wand Case: 1.7
~SETUP-BP-BGT-WORLDMAP.TP2~ #0 #0 // Worldmap for Baldur's Gate - including colored Baldur's Gate map icons: v10.2.2
~EET_END.TP2~ #0 #0 // EET end - last mod in install order
~ITEM_PATCHER/SETUP-ITEM_PATCHER.TP2~ #0 #0 // Install Marker: ALPHA 6
~ITEM_PATCHER/SETUP-ITEM_PATCHER.TP2~ #0 #100 // Gives some vanilla items the Droppable Flag: ALPHA 6
~ITEM_PATCHER/SETUP-ITEM_PATCHER.TP2~ #0 #101 // Gives some Big Picture items the Droppable Flag: ALPHA 6
~ITEM_PATCHER/SETUP-ITEM_PATCHER.TP2~ #0 #102 // Gives some CtB items the Droppable Flag: ALPHA 6
~ITEM_PATCHER/SETUP-ITEM_PATCHER.TP2~ #0 #103 // Gives some Huple items the Droppable Flag: ALPHA 6
~ITEM_PATCHER/SETUP-ITEM_PATCHER.TP2~ #0 #104 // Gives some Iylos items the Droppable Flag: ALPHA 6
~ITEM_PATCHER/SETUP-ITEM_PATCHER.TP2~ #0 #105 // Gives some Keto items the Droppable Flag: ALPHA 6
~ITEM_PATCHER/SETUP-ITEM_PATCHER.TP2~ #0 #106 // Gives some Kim items the Droppable Flag: ALPHA 6
~ITEM_PATCHER/SETUP-ITEM_PATCHER.TP2~ #0 #107 // Gives some Kivan and Deheriana items the Droppable Flag: ALPHA 6
~ITEM_PATCHER/SETUP-ITEM_PATCHER.TP2~ #0 #108 // Gives some Lena items the Droppable Flag: ALPHA 6
~ITEM_PATCHER/SETUP-ITEM_PATCHER.TP2~ #0 #109 // Gives some Les Exiles de Lunargent items the Droppable Flag: ALPHA 6
~ITEM_PATCHER/SETUP-ITEM_PATCHER.TP2~ #0 #110 // Gives some Ninde items the Droppable Flag: ALPHA 6
~ITEM_PATCHER/SETUP-ITEM_PATCHER.TP2~ #0 #111 // Gives some Skie ReDone items the Droppable Flag: ALPHA 6
~ITEM_PATCHER/SETUP-ITEM_PATCHER.TP2~ #0 #112 // Gives some TDD items the Droppable Flag: ALPHA 6
~ITEM_PATCHER/SETUP-ITEM_PATCHER.TP2~ #0 #113 // Gives some Tashia items the Droppable Flag: ALPHA 6
~ITEM_PATCHER/SETUP-ITEM_PATCHER.TP2~ #0 #115 // Gives some TS items the Droppable Flag: ALPHA 6
~ITEM_PATCHER/SETUP-ITEM_PATCHER.TP2~ #0 #116 // Gives some Avi Maya items the Droppable Flag: ALPHA 6
~ITEM_PATCHER/SETUP-ITEM_PATCHER.TP2~ #0 #117 // Gives some Aeon items the Droppable Flag: ALPHA 6
~ITEM_PATCHER/SETUP-ITEM_PATCHER.TP2~ #0 #118 // Gives some Amber items the Droppable Flag: ALPHA 6
~ITEM_PATCHER/SETUP-ITEM_PATCHER.TP2~ #0 #119 // Gives some Angelo items the Droppable Flag: ALPHA 6
~ITEM_PATCHER/SETUP-ITEM_PATCHER.TP2~ #0 #120 // Gives some Breagar items the Droppable Flag: ALPHA 6
// Recently Uninstalled: ~SETUP-BWS_FINAL.TP2~ #0 #0 // Make quick-logged WeiDU-entries visible
 


Edited by The Elder Brain, 15 May 2018 - 12:07 PM.


#6 Lemmy

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 12:28 PM

What you report seems to be intended to make the mod more balanced for EET.

 

This is stated in TDDz readme:

 

. In TDDz, there is a folder for each component, edit ItemsContract.2da, change its UNDROPPABLE column ("+" means no change; "." make it undroppable, i.e. CRE keep the item but in STO, ARE, BAF, any others, it is replaced by SCRL75.itm-Identify Scroll). Avoid to modifiy "++++++++" value than means they should stay unchanged (ex: Espurta map)

Creatures don't drop overpowered items but drop plot items. You may be able to change this if you modify those 2da files prior installation or you accept the makers intention. Otherwise you need to edit the cre files but before you enter the area where they are. That would be cumbersome but possible. You can just cheat in the items after all with console.



#7 The Elder Brain

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 01:40 PM

I really only use one item and that's Giants Grace to get the robes in the trollford dungeon. Its just annoying finding a weapon and it gets stuck in my inventory. I used ee keeper and it wiped mod spells and items I was using so I hate to use it again to get rid of all the un removable items  I have in my inventory. I forgot to mention that I have a few items that I cant sell or remove now.


Edited by The Elder Brain, 15 May 2018 - 01:43 PM.


#8 Lemmy

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 01:53 PM

I really only use one item and that's Giants Grace to get the robes in the trollford dungeon. Its just annoying finding a weapon and it gets stuck in my inventory. I used ee keeper and it wiped mod spells and items I was using so I hate to use it again to get rid of all the un removable items  I have in my inventory. I forgot to mention that I have a few items that I cant sell or remove now.

There's a droppable flag missing in GIANTGRC.itm. If you open it with Near Infinity you just need to tick the droppable, save it and you can do that right in the game. I don't know about EE-Keeper, it's nothing I ever would use. But it may have a similar function to edit an itm file.


Edited by Lemmy, 15 May 2018 - 01:56 PM.


#9 The Elder Brain

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 02:05 PM

I don't know how to use near infinity so I may just have to reinstall again.



#10 Lemmy

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 02:22 PM

I don't know how to use near infinity so I may just have to reinstall again.

If you put this file into BG2EE/override, it should work. But you will get odd item name and description I guess.

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#11 The Elder Brain

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 03:02 PM

Question....If I do reinstall can I import my saved game and old character will it mess up my game ? 



#12 Creepin

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 01:11 PM

If you reinstall with (almost) any changes to mod and component selection or install order, then your old saves are useless. If you plan to install with no changes at all it will work, but what is the benefit? :)


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