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#1 Sharess

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Posted 13 April 2004 - 06:55 AM

This would be a mod for the undersexed. All of us, I should say, as one cannot have enough of that. Naturally it shall include romance and flirts.

The main character is bi-sexual; built for both, and for most possibilities.

A sorc or a thief/mage.. One cannot be too sure of these things at this stage.
who cares about stats - but they must have reasonable dexterity for performance and constitution for endurance. Banter and sex is what this mod will be about and will be it's focus. I'd like to see how far we can push the envelope before it starts to ..resist.

Now, what do you all think?
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#2 Zulrik

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Posted 13 April 2004 - 08:05 AM

it sounds very *gulp* sassy? :huh:

so would the stats be for the character or...performance ;)

sounds interesting, male or female?
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Posted 13 April 2004 - 08:28 AM

I think I'm intrigued. :rolleyes:

#4 Melisah

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Posted 13 April 2004 - 09:04 AM

I don't think I have to tell you that I'm all for it! :wub:

One question though, will this mod be male or female? (yea yea I know)

Personally, I'd like to see a mod made that has a male and a female counter part but both could romance either gender PC. Like you could have Ken OR Kendra and make the banter pretty much the same for both but have two differnet gender versions so male or femal bi-sexual or lesbian PCs could install the female version and females and gay or bi-sexual males could intall the male version. However, I have no idea how much work would be involved in such an undertaking.

Either way, I'd play it. ;)

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Posted 13 April 2004 - 09:10 AM

Don't go with a sorceror. We've already got two of them released and there's that stupid rabbit one that someone's making... :P
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Posted 13 April 2004 - 09:32 AM

Aye. And no kensai, either. We've already got a lesbian kensai and frankly, that is a horrible, HORRIBLE kit...

Swashbuckler maybe? or wizard-slayer? (PS - drow wizzie-slayers rule :-D) or something else that is not-used or under-used.
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Posted 13 April 2004 - 09:35 AM

Could have a wizzie-slayer. Again, I'd avoid a Swashie coz so many people have realised they rock and are making Swashie NPCs...
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Posted 13 April 2004 - 09:55 AM

There's a wizardslayer in alpha testing currently. Though, I will admit that she's not what I'd term 'overly risque.'

Personally, I'd like to see a mod made that has a male and a female counter part but both could romance either gender PC. Like you could have Ken OR Kendra and make the banter pretty much the same for both but have two differnet gender versions so male or femal bi-sexual or lesbian PCs could install the female version and females and gay or bi-sexual males could intall the male version. However, I have no idea how much work would be involved in such an undertaking.


Not much if you can use almost identical dialogues for both.
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#9 Sharess

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Posted 13 April 2004 - 09:59 AM

I almost liked the way you think Ismail, but this character is certainly no drow. This will not be another Viconia. While I can appreciate Viconia for what she was, this is one woman who know what she wants. However, she will be quite content to play with you, ensuring you meet her requirements. That would mean, then, if she runs cold you aren't getting anywhere with her. But what race would she be. I'm wondering about elven, but we shall figure that out eventually.

But yes, a woman; I don't think a man would be fickle enough. Would you care to discuss this Melisah?

A swashbuckler. I suppose we would have to discuss the more mudane statistics at some point. I do believe a cavalier swashbuckler would fit quite nicely.

st:12 dx:18 cn:14 in:10 wi:12 ch:16 = 82

Yes, I realize she has a low constitution, but I'd rather her be a charmer; I shouldn't need to explain this further. She not exactly dim, but she's not interested in worldly events -- She is more interested in enjoying herself and her life. Mundane history will come, eventually, as well.

A bard class is also tempting, but I would have to give her lower charisma and I cannot do that in good conscience. This is not a mod for kits and other boring combat related considerations. This is a mod for ...
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#10 Sharess

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Posted 13 April 2004 - 10:03 AM

Not much if you can use almost identical dialogues for both.

But ultimately, that is only satisfactory to one side of the coin.
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#11 Melisah

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Posted 13 April 2004 - 10:06 AM

But yes, a woman; I don't think a man would be fickle enough.  Would you care to discuss this Melisah?

:ph34r: Um, no not really. :lol:

I do like her stats though and I think they are appropriate. I epecially like the fact that she has high dexterity. After all, you know how hard some armor can be to break into. ;)

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Posted 13 April 2004 - 10:11 AM

undoing those... locks, can be a bit tricky as well.
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Posted 13 April 2004 - 10:16 AM

The idea of making a mod for primarily sexual enbelishement of the game is not a new one. There was ill-famed Juna, there were suggestions of two barmaids and flirtpacks wanted to address this issue as well.

I'd caution that narrowing the focus of the mode excessively and say restricting all 30 SoA Lovetalks to the invitation to lovemaking and play between the sheets and doing every banter with another NPC piquant. Not only it is quite taxing on the writer to come up with 30 (and in case of the bisexual - 60) original erotic scenes, but it also makes a character one-dimensional.

So I am looking forward to see the backstory :lol:

#14 Grim Squeaker

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Posted 13 April 2004 - 10:31 AM

A charming, bisexual swashbuckler? Just try not to make her too much like Inara.
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#15 Sharess

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Posted 13 April 2004 - 10:32 AM

A thought: I certainly don't mean to make you uncomfortable, Melisah. I just thought you may have had some input there. I was mistaken and leave you to hiding behind that chair. Mayhap someone else would care to engage me.

I give your thoughts the consideration they deserve, Domi. I would thank you for them, as well. This, however, will not be some tawdry, teen-angst bit -- Though I certainly will draw that element. I am specially noting 'making the character one-dimensional'.

Backstory will take a bit of actual thinking.


edit--
She wouldn't be much like Inara since I don't know who Inara is.

Edited by Sharess, 13 April 2004 - 10:44 AM.

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Posted 13 April 2004 - 10:56 AM

She wouldn't be much like Inara since I don't know who Inara is.


Perhaps if you'd bothered to click the link Grim provided then you would?

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Posted 13 April 2004 - 10:58 AM

<sigh> ^Me again...

#18 Zulrik

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Posted 13 April 2004 - 11:13 AM

Perhaps if you'd bothered to click the link Grim provided then you would?


if she knew what the discussed mod was like then she may be tempted to use some ideas (no offence, it has been done before). where as without seeing it no harm can be delivered, unless for some inane reason it did happen to be the same
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Posted 13 April 2004 - 11:40 AM

A charming, bisexual swashbuckler? Just try not to make her too much like Inara.

There is really no harm if the new characters appear similar in their class or sexuality. I am more than sure, that an author's inspiration will make the projects different enoiugh to appeal to different audience. That is also a reason *not* to outrule a creation of a new sorcerer, just because there are Kelsey and Tashia out there. Let's the person make her choice based on her own instincts, not on what is out there on the market. It is after all a creative project that should bring joy, not industrial enterprise that aims to fill a niche.

Plus...guys, let's face it - only about 25% of mods that are announced and actually more or less seriously started on get at least to a beta-stage (unofficial statistics).

#20 Sharess

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Posted 13 April 2004 - 03:20 PM

(glances at Chaz) While I can appreciate that Grim is trying to be helpful, once is enough don't you think? Converserly, perhaps if you 'bothered' to check if you were signed in before posting, you wouldn't have to continually double-post.

Indeed, Domi, fun it should be. And with regards to statistics, it remains to be seen on which side of that equation I will fall. With a little help and a little luck, I'm hoping my imp stays on my shoulder for the duration.

In the meantime, here is a bit of filler for consumption and comment.

Angela, named after the woman who broke my heart. I do hope the name is not already in use. She will only actively romance the PC.

Class: Thief. I don't want any 'kit madness'.

Aerie - loves to hear her laugh, but has little patience for her misery
Anomen - he's quite cute, until he opens his mouth. She'll tear him up one side and down the other, or try to.
Cernd - this one may have eaten too many berries, but he's a good enough sort
Haer'Dalis - this guy, while fluid, is quite flaky - but still flirt worthy.
Imoen - she'll take to Imoen immediately and relentlessly flirt with her if the PC isn't interested, or it's not yet serious, but no futher.
Jaheira - she's stubborn, but Angie can appreciate why. She will fail like never before, in attempting to flirt with Jaheira.
Keldorn - he's sort'a cute, for an old guy, and she'll try to turn him as many shades of red as she can.
Korgan - no. Just... ...no. (she will give you an ultimatum)
Mazzy - she not a bad sort, but so uptight.
Minsc - he's okay, mostly like a dim big brother through.
Valygar - he's quite a looker, too bad he's so low-key.
Viconia - (snicker) I haven't quite decided about Viconia yet.

(who else did I forget -- rolls the eyes)

Were she a priest, she'd be tempted to favor Sharess. Instead, Lliira, or even Sune, is more to her discriminating tastes. She's known to frequently spout: Me mum didn't raise no fools. You notice her eyes wet with sadness when you ask her about it; growing up, for her, was a necessity. In general, life was made softer by her mother, but when she thinks of father... (more will follow)
LaLaLa ~And now she's on the road.

No, she's not a victim of anything, or so she says (and is not); just one of those who felt the need to go outward and onward. Still, she doesn't deal with harsh people very well and Anomen will remind her a bit of her father -- which is why she'll push him right to the edge if your PC doesn't stop her. Angela will flirt with about anyone but she's much more demanding when selecting her mate; she knows what she wants.

She will be human. She will only romance humans, half-elves, eleves, rare half-orcs and rare halflings.. all need to pass charisma and intelligence/wisdom checks. I'll be imposing severe stat checks on the half-orcs (intel/wisdom total) and halflings (charisma), because I can. I am also considering imposing class/stat checks, because it might be a good idea. Thoughts?

She'll be chaotic good, I do believe; we shall see how well I keep her there. This is my first NPC so it will be kept quite basic, mainly questless, yet chatty and catty. I've got a few other ideas about how I want to do things -- By sets of three the romance will progress to the next stage, you will ask her or she will ask you certain questions, and it will all be on a timer so one can't 'do the romance in 5 minutes'. You know the rest of the drill.

Edited by Sharess, 14 April 2004 - 01:52 AM.

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