Because he is such a compassionate person. And it would be interesting to make a romance to two dwarfs. How would they express their feelings?
Yeslick from BGI as a romanceable NPC
Started by Briannandoah, Jun 25 2004 07:08 AM
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Posted 25 June 2004 - 07:14 AM
I must confess that I am greatly influenced by Tancred's writing of Yeslick in BG1NPC project and he is a very lovable character, with fantastic dialogue but... erm... a grandfatherly figure. I like the interpretation al lot, though because it sets him aside from the younger gang and makes him unique. 
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Posted 25 June 2004 - 07:27 AM
Maybe it's because my mother re-married at 57 and my grandmother re-married at 74, but I can imagine a younger Dwarf misinterpretting Yeslick's kindness for something more, and Yeslick feeling flattered. Yeslick is too wise and too experienced to let things progress that far with a Dwarf young enough to be his grand-child, but he would be as gentle as he could, and he'd never withdraw his support unless forced. I think it could give the romance a bitter-sweet feel.I must confess that I am greatly influenced by Tancred's writing of Yeslick in BG1NPC project and he is a very lovable character, with fantastic dialogue but... erm... a grandfatherly figure. I like the interpretation al lot, though because it sets him aside from the younger gang and makes him unique.
Yeslick might be open to a relationship with a Dwarf close to his own age.
Edit: I could see this as a sort of undergrad with a crush on a sweet professor thing, or young soldier with a crush on a kind and effective officer.
Edited by BobTokyo, 25 June 2004 - 07:30 AM.
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Posted 25 June 2004 - 07:40 AM
I also think it shouldn't necessarily be a romance leading to marriage and love forever, but just like written above, and it could also end nicely, without anyone getting hurt . Though it is not unheard of that an elderly man has fallen for a younger woman, and it would be interesting to make the conversations so, that there would be only one right way to win Yeslick's heart. And I couldn't somehow imagine any "sleep wiht me" love scenes for Yeslick 
- that somehow wouldn't fit his character (neither to a dwarf woman's character though).
I haven't read anything more about Yeslick than played BGI for several times with him on the party, so I just make my opinions from that .
. Though it is not unheard of that an elderly man has fallen for a younger woman, and it would be interesting to make the conversations so, that there would be only one right way to win Yeslick's heart. And I couldn't somehow imagine any "sleep wiht me" love scenes for Yeslick - that somehow wouldn't fit his character (neither to a dwarf woman's character though).I haven't read anything more about Yeslick than played BGI for several times with him on the party, so I just make my opinions from that
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Posted 25 June 2004 - 07:45 AM
My sister-in-law's father married one of his grad students recently. She's younger than my sister-in-law. Very strained situation. Again, I think high wisdom would prevent Yeslick from taking this path.I also think it shouldn't necessarily be a romance leading to marriage and love forever, but just like written above, and it could also end nicely, without anyone getting hurt
I haven't read anything more about Yeslick than played BGI for several times with him on the party, so I just make my opinions from that
You might want to try the BG1 NPC Project; I loved that take on Yeslick, and on the rest of the BG1 NPCs as well.
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Posted 25 June 2004 - 07:57 AM
It definetly would be an unusual romance, and anything unusual is a good idea. And of course I cannot resist repeating Bob's recommendation for trying out BG1NPC if you'd be interested in seeing interactions from Yeslick in the game. His banters with Garrick are among my personal favorites. 
And of course I cannot resist repeating Bob's recommendation for trying out BG1NPC if you'd be interested in seeing interactions from Yeslick in the game. His banters with Garrick are among my personal favorites.
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Posted 25 June 2004 - 09:29 AM
I don't know, BGI has a kind of sentimental value to me as it is 
. It is kind of meditation to play it, to know everything by heart and to be able to do the guests even in your dreams . Besides I have my own subplots in my mind for the NPC's in it, so it would be kind of cruel to change them, in a way. BGII isn't that familiar, so I don't feel such strong emotions toward it. Or... I do, but different .
. It is kind of meditation to play it, to know everything by heart and to be able to do the guests even in your dreams . Besides I have my own subplots in my mind for the NPC's in it, so it would be kind of cruel to change them, in a way. BGII isn't that familiar, so I don't feel such strong emotions toward it. Or... I do, but different .
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Posted 25 June 2004 - 10:03 AM
Oh, I understand the feeling. But we did not alter anything really, just added a bunch of new dialogues in, trying to fit BG1 bios/soundsets/general impression. But of course, each author added his/her interpretation, and some of it may be close to what you imagined, and some may be further appart.
Sometimes it changes your opinion for the better, sometimes - for the worst, of course.
In my case, for example, writing for Edwin and Xzar changed my perception of characters a lot, and actually if I ever have time to play free-style (yah, right) I consider using these two, and I would have never done it without seeing Merja's and Hendryk's work. On the other hand there is one character I liked a lot, but the mod's interpretaion while being good, consistent, justified and likable did not match mine idea at all, so I simply do not use this character any more. So I guess if someone has very strong preference for a particular character interpretation I'd avoid this char and try out others and if liked what you have seen - carefully switch to the old favs and see if they were changed too much or not.
Sometimes it changes your opinion for the better, sometimes - for the worst, of course.
In my case, for example, writing for Edwin and Xzar changed my perception of characters a lot, and actually if I ever have time to play free-style (yah, right) I consider using these two, and I would have never done it without seeing Merja's and Hendryk's work. On the other hand there is one character I liked a lot, but the mod's interpretaion while being good, consistent, justified and likable did not match mine idea at all, so I simply do not use this character any more. So I guess if someone has very strong preference for a particular character interpretation I'd avoid this char and try out others and if liked what you have seen - carefully switch to the old favs and see if they were changed too much or not.
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Posted 25 June 2004 - 11:55 AM
It's true that I wrote the character of Yeslick as a kind of lovable, crusty old coot, and I certainly didn't see any possibility of a romance during the time of BG1. However, there's a few things to consider.
Firstly, that a BG2 Yeslick would now have an easier, slightly lighter spirit; he no longer carries the burden nor the blame for his family's dishonour, having exterminated the guilty parties. He might become a little less stern towards those of a good heart.
Secondly, age aside, Yeslick is a dwarf of staunch values, great commitment to his god, great loyalty to his clan and theirs, and with skills as both a warrior and a smith. In short, if he were a century and a half or so younger, he'd be the kind of dwarf a a dwarf girl wouldn't be ashamed to take home to meet Mum and Dad.
And lastly that although Yeslick naturally considers himself older and wiser than any other NPC around, he might have a similar attitude towards the PC as, for example, Jahiera - a guardian/charge relationship would have subtly progressed into something more equal. Not VERY equal, but it's getting there.
EDIT: In fact, here's a thought; if you wanted to base a BG2 Yeslick on the BG1 Yeslick that I wrote, you could signify the change in his character by giving him a subquest of seeking out long-lost family in Amn. In BG1 he was looking to lay the past to rest; in BG2 he'd be looking to find a future.
Firstly, that a BG2 Yeslick would now have an easier, slightly lighter spirit; he no longer carries the burden nor the blame for his family's dishonour, having exterminated the guilty parties. He might become a little less stern towards those of a good heart.
Secondly, age aside, Yeslick is a dwarf of staunch values, great commitment to his god, great loyalty to his clan and theirs, and with skills as both a warrior and a smith. In short, if he were a century and a half or so younger, he'd be the kind of dwarf a a dwarf girl wouldn't be ashamed to take home to meet Mum and Dad.
And lastly that although Yeslick naturally considers himself older and wiser than any other NPC around, he might have a similar attitude towards the PC as, for example, Jahiera - a guardian/charge relationship would have subtly progressed into something more equal. Not VERY equal, but it's getting there.
EDIT: In fact, here's a thought; if you wanted to base a BG2 Yeslick on the BG1 Yeslick that I wrote, you could signify the change in his character by giving him a subquest of seeking out long-lost family in Amn. In BG1 he was looking to lay the past to rest; in BG2 he'd be looking to find a future.
Edited by Tancred, 25 June 2004 - 12:06 PM.
