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[Galactygon]

Does someone have a spell progression chart for the following classes (and doesn't mind posing it here): Druid, Paladin, Ranger

I have heard of many sources claiming Rangers can cast up to level 5 spells and paladins level 6 spells once they reach a level high enough. However various other sources simply state paladins can only cast up to level 4 spells while rangers up to level 3 spells.

The same applied for bards (level 6 spells vs. level 8 spells) until I got an official source claiming that bards may cast up to level 8 spells at a really high level (level 25 or something like that).

So can anyone confirm this?

Also, does anyone have a spell progression chart for bards between level 30 and level 50? So far I have been trying to make everything as close to the official rulebooks, but some parts have been improvised by myself that lacked official material.

-Galactygon

[BobTokyo]

3.5 Paladins.

3.5 Rangers

[Sillara]

Are you looking for 3e, 3.5, or 2e?

Sillara

[Galactygon]

2e. Sorry 'bout that.

-Galactygon

[oralpain]

The Forgotten Realms have a different (and inflated) progression compaired to standard AD&D 2nd edition. FR advancement goes to level 40 and has higher caps on other level related things.

Non-campaign specific 2nd edtion rules (which I vastly prefer) top out at level 30, or level 20 if you use just the core books.

The following are tables for generic 2E (from Dungeon Master's Option: High Level Campaigns):

All THAC0 progression stops at level 20.

All paladin and ranger spell progression stops at level 20.

Table 44:
Wizard Spell Progression
Lv 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 *
20 5 5 5 5 5 4 3 3 2 1
21 5 5 5 5 5 4 4 4 2 1
22 5 5 5 5 5 5 4 4 3 1
23 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 3 2
24 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 4 2
25 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 2
26 6 6 6 6 5 5 5 5 5 3
27 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 5 5 3
28 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 3
29 7 7 7 7 6 6 6 6 6 4
30 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 6 6 4

Table 46:
Priest Spell Progression
Lv 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 *
20 9 9 9 8 7 5 2 1
21 9 9 9 9 8 6 2 1
22 9 9 9 9 9 6 3 2
23 9 9 9 9 9 7 3 2
24 9 9 9 9 9 8 3 2
25 9 9 9 9 9 8 4 3
26 9 9 9 9 9 9 4 3
27 9 9 9 9 9 9 5 4
28 9 9 9 9 9 9 6 4
29 9 9 9 9 9 9 7 4
30 9 9 9 9 9 9 8 4

Table 52:
Bard Spell Progression
Lv 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
20 4 4 4 4 4 3 — —
21 4 4 4 4 4 4 1 —
22 4 4 4 4 4 4 2 —
23 4 4 4 4 4 4 3 —
24 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 —
25 5 5 4 4 4 4 4 —
26 5 5 5 5 4 4 4 —
27 5 5 5 5 5 5 4 —
28 6 5 5 5 5 5 5 —
29 6 6 5 5 5 5 5 1
30 6 6 6 6 5 5 5 1

Note: * indicates true dweomers ("10th level" spells) that function an are prepared very differently from the other spells.

The follwing are the charts from FRs "Powers and Pantheons":


Oddly, bard progression is better in the non-camapaign specific charts.

Different worlds often have different progressions.

[zyablik]

Thanks for the info

It'all about BG implementation. I think its SP incorrect and i want approximate it for 2e.

The same question about Sorcerer and Druid, in the BG their SP differs from the default wizard\cleric.

Now I patchced 2DAs for SP from "Powers and Pantheons" with the exception of sorcerer and druid. However TACH0 settings left untouched

Should I patch them as default ?
Should I patch TACH0 ?

Just give me alink for src of full 2e docs.

PSS: My english grammar still bad.

[oralpain]

You are correct. BG has flat out errors with some of the spell progressions, among other things. I have corrected many of these myself and can link you to what I'm using if you would like to take a look at them.

http://home.rocheste.../Corrected 2DA/

I didn't sort these very well, and some of them I made just ot more closely match pnp not correct errors per se.

The spell progression (esp the wisdom modifier) and thac0 chart where the main things I felt where actuall in error.

Edited by oralpain, 29 January 2006 - 05:07 AM.

[zyablik]

hanks oralpain.

It helped me. I think i should patch durid sp after lv20 for the same
values as the cleric.

But why xpcap in all classes is -1, in BG there are different certain values.

[oralpain]

There are no exp caps in pnp, though there are level caps in some cases. I just stop clicking level up when that happens.

Nothing wrong if you keep the old one. -1 is just my personal preference.