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#1 Deathsangel

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Posted 13 April 2005 - 09:07 AM

So here you can ask more general question about the mod, like (which are the FAQ):

Is this mod gong to be WeiDu?
Yep

What is all going to be in the mod?
Edit dialogue options, more evil outcome original quests, new (mostly evil) quests, three new evil NPC's, new encaged persons (as if you had brought an evil party from BG1)

Do good guys have any use of this mod?
Very, very little. Some new quests can be done by good guys, but that is about it.

Do neutral guys have any use of this mod?
Very much, IMO. Adding evil options and adding evil quests gives you also more options to play neutral in my opinion, as in 'murder? Oh well, if it pays well'-mercenary like. Or the LN wizard would not want to murder, but will probably be interested in an old magic tome.

And these new dialogues... are the going to override the old ones?
Some will give a new path to an old quest, some will just be new replies, as to give better roleplay options.

So I can still play a good-character after installing this mod?
Yep, it will just add stuff you can quite easily ignore as good guy or woman

Can I join the team?
You have to ask and be accepted.

Do I need to be able to code?
That would be very appreciated, as I am the only coder.

Can I add stuff that I already came up with?
If it can be added without interfering the rest, it is vialable and it is within the line of MftW, then we would be more then happy!

I understand you release the NPC's seperately from the Mod. Will they be included into one big package when they are all done, or will they stay seperate downloads?
Actually a bit more on the contrary. Kido and Ariena will be released seperatly, though with less content as in the MftW. The rest of the NPC's will only be available through the big package download that will be the Mod for the Wicked.

How much of that can we expect in the first downloadable version of the Mod for the Wicked?
The first downloadable version of the real Mod for the Wicked will be some time for it to happen. It will for certain contain Kido v4.? / Ariena v1.? / a few new evil quests, mostly the straightforward ones (the bigger ones I need to learn more for) and a good amount of new evil twists and RP possiblities.

The upcoming version(s) of that one will first expand into the larger quests.

Then the new persons in the cage component is started.


How much will the new evil NPC's be blended in with the MftW quest/RP pack?
Since Ian is so tightly connected to one of the new major quests he is totally blended into the MftW. Kirinhale and Montaron (the two probably encaged ones) will be even in a later version of MftW and therefore will blend in seemingly as Ian. Kido and Ariena (the only two whom will be seperatly released) will have extended dialogue (thus actually higher up versions) in the MftW, as well as the Bioware NPC's, who will comment on the new quests. The example of how this is done is introduced in Ariena v.1, for I continue to learn and become better. ;)

More questions?

Edited by Deathsangel, 26 May 2005 - 06:27 AM.

Still modding the Mod for the Wicked... It is a big project you know... And I got sidetracked (several times) a bit... sorry.
However, as we all know, Evil never really sleeps.


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Kat: if there were more guys that looked like you out here, people's offspring wouldnt be so damn ugly
Noctalys: you are adorable :P

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#2 Surtr

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Posted 15 April 2005 - 11:56 PM

Yes, here's a question: Will we see some evil/corrupted/vile new spells in the Mod for the Wicked that are accessable as mage, sorcerer and cleric (possible as scrolls in Bleak Academy to find)?

#3 Deathsangel

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Posted 16 April 2005 - 03:19 AM

Yes, here's a question: Will we see some evil/corrupted/vile new spells in the Mod for the Wicked that are accessable as mage, sorcerer and cleric (possible as scrolls in Bleak Academy to find)?

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I'm thinking on creating at least the good old: Protection from Good. Might make more, but since that way of coding is new to me. I do not know how well it all will go.

Still modding the Mod for the Wicked... It is a big project you know... And I got sidetracked (several times) a bit... sorry.
However, as we all know, Evil never really sleeps.


Sentences marking (my) life:

Winds of change... Endure them, and in Enduring grow Stronger
It takes a fool to look for logic in a man's heart
Never question the sanity of the insane
The Harmony of Life is Chaos
Living on Wings of Dreams



(1st march 2009) SHS women over me:
Kat: if there were more guys that looked like you out here, people's offspring wouldnt be so damn ugly
Noctalys: you are adorable :P

~~ I love it, and I am humbled! Yay! ~~


#4 Andyr

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Posted 16 April 2005 - 04:48 AM

We have included Protection from Good and other forms of reversed spells (e.g Inflict Light/Moderate/Critical Wounds) in the Cleric Remix mod. :)
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#5 Deathsangel

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Posted 16 April 2005 - 05:05 AM

We have included Protection from Good and other forms of reversed spells (e.g Inflict Light/Moderate/Critical Wounds) in the Cleric Remix mod. :)

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Weren't the inflicts already in plane BG2? The one with the hand with a + sign above the right finger. I know at least harm to be in there.

May I be so bold as to ask if I may use these spells for tMftW and give credit to Cleric Remix and point to the site or would this be forbidden and do I need to create these spells myself Andyr?

Still modding the Mod for the Wicked... It is a big project you know... And I got sidetracked (several times) a bit... sorry.
However, as we all know, Evil never really sleeps.


Sentences marking (my) life:

Winds of change... Endure them, and in Enduring grow Stronger
It takes a fool to look for logic in a man's heart
Never question the sanity of the insane
The Harmony of Life is Chaos
Living on Wings of Dreams



(1st march 2009) SHS women over me:
Kat: if there were more guys that looked like you out here, people's offspring wouldnt be so damn ugly
Noctalys: you are adorable :P

~~ I love it, and I am humbled! Yay! ~~


#6 NiGHTMARE

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Posted 16 April 2005 - 05:15 AM

Cause Serious Wounds, Cause Critical Wounds and Harm are in unmodded BG2, but Cause Light Wounds and Cause Medium Wounds aren't.

Edited by NiGHTMARE, 16 April 2005 - 05:15 AM.


#7 Deathsangel

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Posted 17 April 2005 - 08:20 AM

IC... well must I officially request this to some one of Cleric Remix?

And as another note. Do other you all also see a great rise in making evil mods, with quests and stuff. What is up with that. Valen was first NPC, but I had with Darkness in Light the first quests and stuff and I see all over ideas starting for this stuff. Depressing. Like getting everything you worked for swiped from under you.

Edited by Deathsangel, 17 April 2005 - 10:59 AM.

Still modding the Mod for the Wicked... It is a big project you know... And I got sidetracked (several times) a bit... sorry.
However, as we all know, Evil never really sleeps.


Sentences marking (my) life:

Winds of change... Endure them, and in Enduring grow Stronger
It takes a fool to look for logic in a man's heart
Never question the sanity of the insane
The Harmony of Life is Chaos
Living on Wings of Dreams



(1st march 2009) SHS women over me:
Kat: if there were more guys that looked like you out here, people's offspring wouldnt be so damn ugly
Noctalys: you are adorable :P

~~ I love it, and I am humbled! Yay! ~~


#8 Sir Kalthorine

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Posted 21 April 2005 - 06:07 AM

And as another note. Do other you all also see a great rise in making evil mods, with quests and stuff. What is up with that. Valen was first NPC, but I had with Darkness in Light the first quests and stuff and I see all over ideas starting for this stuff. Depressing. Like getting everything you worked for swiped from under you.

Don't let it get you down, Deathsangel :)

I had a brief (and I do mean brief) sense of panic a week or so ago when I saw a few other mods appearing with a general "clone/mysterious female joins you from Irenicus's dungeon with a murky past she can't remember" theme, and I got all protective of Chrysta as a result. But after communication with the various mod teams concerned I soon felt reassured that any similarities were merely superficial. And anyone who plays two mods that might seem similar on the surface will (9 times out of 10 anyway) soon discover that they are anything but.

I think in particular that "mods for evil peeps" is such a broad remit that (i) you needn't worry too much about people needing to steal any ideas, and (ii) many will be similar by coincidence.

And even if anyone has based even small elements on some of your ideas, you don't have to take it negatively. Feel flattered that people were so impressed with your concepts that they were worth plagiarising, and also treat it as a challenge to prove that the original is still the best. The BG2 playing community generally have their fingers on the pulse of whose idea is what, and I feel sure that you will still get the full credit you deserve!

So, chin up Deaths... I've been there too and it is not a terminal condition. :thumb:

KACH_TS.jpg Chrysta... could helping her to uncover her past threaten your own future?

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#9 Deathsangel

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Posted 21 April 2005 - 06:32 AM

Thanks for the cheering up and vote of confidence Sir K

Still modding the Mod for the Wicked... It is a big project you know... And I got sidetracked (several times) a bit... sorry.
However, as we all know, Evil never really sleeps.


Sentences marking (my) life:

Winds of change... Endure them, and in Enduring grow Stronger
It takes a fool to look for logic in a man's heart
Never question the sanity of the insane
The Harmony of Life is Chaos
Living on Wings of Dreams



(1st march 2009) SHS women over me:
Kat: if there were more guys that looked like you out here, people's offspring wouldnt be so damn ugly
Noctalys: you are adorable :P

~~ I love it, and I am humbled! Yay! ~~


#10 arconian

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Posted 02 May 2005 - 03:21 AM

Wow, just wandered over here actually.This certainly looks promising can't wait till you have the full version ready. :thumb:

#11 Sir Kalthorine

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 04:42 AM

Wow, just wandered over here actually.This certainly looks promising can't wait till you have the full version ready. :thumb:

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It certainly does look promising... and it is refreshing to see a mod that is making a conscious effort to add a new dimension to gameplay. Keep up the good work Deathsangel. :)

KACH_TS.jpg Chrysta... could helping her to uncover her past threaten your own future?

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#12 Deathsangel

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 04:52 AM

Thanks, from the Posted Image-angel. Ariena is far in development. I hope to have a near finished (except for quest) SoA version of Ariena.

[edit] wrong smilie edit

Edited by Deathsangel, 04 May 2005 - 05:17 AM.

Still modding the Mod for the Wicked... It is a big project you know... And I got sidetracked (several times) a bit... sorry.
However, as we all know, Evil never really sleeps.


Sentences marking (my) life:

Winds of change... Endure them, and in Enduring grow Stronger
It takes a fool to look for logic in a man's heart
Never question the sanity of the insane
The Harmony of Life is Chaos
Living on Wings of Dreams



(1st march 2009) SHS women over me:
Kat: if there were more guys that looked like you out here, people's offspring wouldnt be so damn ugly
Noctalys: you are adorable :P

~~ I love it, and I am humbled! Yay! ~~


#13 Sir Kalthorine

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 05:07 AM

Thanks, from the Posted Image-angel. Ariena is far in development. I hope to have a near finished (except for quest) SoA version of Ariena.

Excellent news!!! :w00t:

If you need any proof-reading done, just give me a shout. :thumb:

Edited by Sir Kalthorine, 04 May 2005 - 05:08 AM.

KACH_TS.jpg Chrysta... could helping her to uncover her past threaten your own future?

"Pity the land in need of Heroes."- Bertolt Brecht
"A little madness, now and then, is relished by the wisest men." - Willy Wonka


#14 Deathsangel

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 05:19 AM

Oh, I just thought of the mistake, but Sir K. is right. That version needs beta testing first

[edit] @ Sir K. I will keep it in mind, though I wonder if you shouldn't be rather working on Chrysta? :P

Edited by Deathsangel, 04 May 2005 - 05:30 AM.

Still modding the Mod for the Wicked... It is a big project you know... And I got sidetracked (several times) a bit... sorry.
However, as we all know, Evil never really sleeps.


Sentences marking (my) life:

Winds of change... Endure them, and in Enduring grow Stronger
It takes a fool to look for logic in a man's heart
Never question the sanity of the insane
The Harmony of Life is Chaos
Living on Wings of Dreams



(1st march 2009) SHS women over me:
Kat: if there were more guys that looked like you out here, people's offspring wouldnt be so damn ugly
Noctalys: you are adorable :P

~~ I love it, and I am humbled! Yay! ~~


#15 Sir Kalthorine

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 05:20 AM

[edit] wrong smilie edit

LOL! I noticed!!! But I don't want to change it in my post... I kinda like thinking you of a "Beer-angel" :lol:

Edited by Deathsangel, 04 May 2005 - 05:32 AM.

KACH_TS.jpg Chrysta... could helping her to uncover her past threaten your own future?

"Pity the land in need of Heroes."- Bertolt Brecht
"A little madness, now and then, is relished by the wisest men." - Willy Wonka


#16 Deathsangel

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 05:33 AM

Argh... I am messing up my own forum. Instead of quote I used edit in your post. I didn't change anything. Sorry for the mess.

As to give the reaction:

Beer has also something to with death as well, right? Though not by taking revenge in the name of god... ;)

Still modding the Mod for the Wicked... It is a big project you know... And I got sidetracked (several times) a bit... sorry.
However, as we all know, Evil never really sleeps.


Sentences marking (my) life:

Winds of change... Endure them, and in Enduring grow Stronger
It takes a fool to look for logic in a man's heart
Never question the sanity of the insane
The Harmony of Life is Chaos
Living on Wings of Dreams



(1st march 2009) SHS women over me:
Kat: if there were more guys that looked like you out here, people's offspring wouldnt be so damn ugly
Noctalys: you are adorable :P

~~ I love it, and I am humbled! Yay! ~~


#17 Sir Kalthorine

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 05:41 AM

[edit] @ Sir K. I will keep it in mind, though I wonder if you shouldn't be rather working on Chrysta? :P

Hey, if modders can't help each other out from time to time then what is the point of having a modding community, right? :)

KACH_TS.jpg Chrysta... could helping her to uncover her past threaten your own future?

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"A little madness, now and then, is relished by the wisest men." - Willy Wonka


#18 Chooch

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Posted 12 May 2005 - 06:58 PM

Where do you down load Ariena? Do you want comments on both NPC?

#19 Deathsangel

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Posted 13 May 2005 - 02:09 AM

Where do you down load Ariena? Do you want comments on both NPC?

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I moved your reply as it was in the wrong topic in my opinion. Ariena is not yet available for download. The topic with detectives wanted is much more general, about the game itself without the mod added. This in order to find mostly dialogue options and new quest locations, perhaps even things of old quests we didn't thought of yet. You can just sprout your comments about the NPC in their proper topics, alike "Ask Ariena", "Ask Kido", "Ariena Banters", "Report bugs" etc.

Hope you do not find me rude to move the post, but I would like to have the "Detectives (f and m) wanted!" topic very to the point, if you take my meaning.

Still hope to see you around and feel to comment on Kido... and the rest when available

Still modding the Mod for the Wicked... It is a big project you know... And I got sidetracked (several times) a bit... sorry.
However, as we all know, Evil never really sleeps.


Sentences marking (my) life:

Winds of change... Endure them, and in Enduring grow Stronger
It takes a fool to look for logic in a man's heart
Never question the sanity of the insane
The Harmony of Life is Chaos
Living on Wings of Dreams



(1st march 2009) SHS women over me:
Kat: if there were more guys that looked like you out here, people's offspring wouldnt be so damn ugly
Noctalys: you are adorable :P

~~ I love it, and I am humbled! Yay! ~~


#20 Efreet

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 09:50 AM

If you have the book of vile darkness, were you thinking of implementing some of the evil spells into your mod? A small detail but it can be used to make certain villains more evil. (love's pain and gutwrench are my current favourites.)

You could also include some of them on scrolls as rewards for really evil quests.

Edited by Efreet, 20 May 2005 - 09:52 AM.

Then she saw his eyes, red and mad as hell. And in that moment she knew that he could kill anyone, no matter how strong. Madness, true madness could put a fist through a plank.