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[autumn leaf]

Does anyone know what mod the longer road is not compatible with? Because a friend has played the mod and she ended up being stuck in Sendai's dungeon as the solar did not come out. So, I really don't want this to happen. Currently I have Tsujatha, Yasarena, Kelsey, Ease of use, duengens be gone, Solaufien and the Valygar Romance. Do they crash with this mod?
Please, reply!

[Seifer]

Just be careful of any mods that add lots of music files. Tsujatha, Yasarena and Valygar Romance I've never played. Check their associated readmes.

[dorotea]

My understanding is that any mod that heavily modifies the final scenes of the ToB would clash with LR - if it was released after it. I Think that would be Return to Windspear for sure ( unless they took special care to be compatible), Turnabout and Virtue, the BP+ - it has a lot of music and there were reports of overwriting many scripts. Thats about all I can think of.

If you can do me a favor and ask your friend what mods does she have installed for sure?

It isreally sad that most of the modders don't give a fig about compatibility with other earlier released mods - but tis life.

LR is definitely compatible with all of the Romances, Ascension, Ease of Use, Tactics, Valen, Improved Oasis, and Quest-Banter-Flirt packs ( although I am not that sure anymore - they might have added stuff) . Any mods that don't add anything to the ToB portion are compatible.

Edited by dorotea, 01 December 2005 - 09:59 AM.

[ronin]

It isreally sad that most of the modders don't give a fig about compatibility with other earlier released mods - but tis life.

That was uncalled for, there alot of modders out there busting their asses to make mods as compatible as possible with other mods (Sir Billy Bob, King Diamond, Hlid, Ascencion64 for example). Making a sweeping statement like that does no justice to the modders that are producing high quality mods and also revitalizing the older mods so that they are up to date.

ronin

[Acheron]

How are Virtue and the Longer Road not compatible...Virtue doesn't make any changes to the storyline and the two seem to have no overlapping content?

-Acheron

[dorotea]

Hmm, I assumed that Virtue has a set of scripts that deals with PC's 'righteousness'. I have to confess to never downloading it. But it sure should add something to the Epilogues section? If it does not than it would be compatible with LR. But if someone could try it and post here it will be really nice.

And my apologies for exxagerating the compatibility issue. Still, as far as I know I was never asked by any modder working on additions to the ToB to help with comapatibility , and neither I was informed that anybody cared to make their mod compatible with LR. So, I assumed nobody really cared.

Add to this really, how should I put it, a heavily intimidating campaign led by a certain individual modder, aimed at discrediting and ridiculing LR in the past - and you would probably understand how it happened that I acquired some degree of bitterness in regard to modders' cooperation and respect to each other.

[Acheron]

I'll try it (Virtue and Longer Road) out and let you know. Though I'm not quite to TOB yet in my current session so it will take a little while .

-Acheron

[Seifer]

There wasn't any complication with the original virture and LR when I was playing with them.

[autumn leaf]

My understanding is that any mod that heavily modifies the final scenes of the ToB would clash with LR - if it was released after it. I Think that would be Return to Windspear for sure ( unless they took special care to be compatible), Turnabout and Virtue, the BP+ - it has a lot of music and there were reports of overwriting many scripts. Thats about all I can think of.

If you can do me a favor and ask your friend what mods does she have installed for sure?

It isreally sad that most of the modders don't give a fig about compatibility with other earlier released mods - but tis life.

LR is definitely compatible with all of the Romances, Ascension, Ease of Use, Tactics, Valen, Improved Oasis, and Quest-Banter-Flirt packs ( although I am not that sure anymore - they might have added stuff) . Any mods that don't add anything to the ToB portion are compatible.

My friend have all the mod that I have. By the way, she wants to plan ascension and on the readme we saw that it is advised that you should install redemption. So, should she install redemption instead of the longer road?

[Shed]

They're completely different mods; you should be able to install both.

[the bigg]

I Think that would be Return to Windspear for sure ( unless they took special care to be compatible) <etc>.

RTW is completely wrapped up in the dungeon, except the mission-giver and the new (sekrit) NPC, so there should be no problem in a well-written game engine. It however adds 3 entries to musiclist, so this may be a risk.

[dorotea]

My thanks to all who answered here!

So it looks like Virtue is compatible with LR after all, as well as (maybe) the RtW. This leaves Turnabout and some of the elements of BP+.

As for the music, Neb tried to fix this by adding a piece of code that checks for extra music and does not install it if there is already too much Songs on the list. It turns out however that it does not work. Maybe I should look into releasing the 'light' version of the mod - without music?

About LR and Redemption - please DO NOT install them together!
There is a warning in the LR Readme even , and the LR specifically checks for Redemption and refuses to install over it. Redemption was my first (rather embarrassing) attempt at redeeming Irenicus. Looking back I don't find it particularly viable. Please don't try the two mods together.

Edited by dorotea, 03 December 2005 - 10:20 AM.

[Shed]

About LR and Redemption - please DO NOT install them together!
There is a warning in the LR Readme even , and the LR specifically checks for Redemption and refuses to install over it. Redemption was my first (rather embarrassing) attempt at redeeming Irenicus. Looking back I don't find it particularly viable. Please don't try the two mods together.

Ah, ok .

[autumn leaf]

But ascension should be ok with the longer road right?

[dorotea]

But ascension should be ok with the longer road right?

Absolutely - LR was specially coded to work both with/and without Ascension. That was our primary goal - to make sure LR is smoothly integrated with Ascension. I cannot play ToB without A. , and some of the LR plot was based on Ascension. Still, LR works without A. too.

[SimDing0]

I think Bons may be doing some sort of investigation into LR/Turnabout compatibility. I don't believe she's able to post here though, so it may be worth checking the Turnabout forum for information.

Edited by SimDing0, 06 December 2005 - 10:11 AM.

[dorotea]

Everybody who is not Jason Compton can post here with absolutely no restrictions. Since I don't visit the PP Board ( for exact same reason that JC is not allowed here) I guess I cannot see the results of her investigation.

[Seifer]

I'll convey them if needed. Bon's doesn't have an account here so she;s unable to post by default.

[dorotea]

Answered you in PM. Hopefully all will be settled soon. But certainly, if they need my help on the matter or if any questions are asked I am more than ready to answer and if you can post her commentary here I will be most grateful.

Edited by dorotea, 06 December 2005 - 10:44 PM.

[SimDing0]

Since I don't visit the PP Board ( for exact same reason that JC is not allowed here)

I think you must be mistaken. As far as I'm aware, your posting on PPG is in no way restricted.

Edited by SimDing0, 07 December 2005 - 12:36 AM.