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[vilkacis]

It's very possible to apply specific effects to a kitted character on level-up. That's how the archer and kensai get their damage and to-hit bonus, for example. There already exist several spells that create equipment, too. I'm not sure how this would work with permanent gear, but I imagine it wouldn't be too difficult to create a kit that gives the user permanent, unremovable equipment that gets upgraded as the character levels.

It may be a problem with events taht remove all equipment, though - this tends to make characters drop even "unremovable" things. Also, I think trueclass mages only get two 9th-level spells maximum in the unmodded game, though, so I wouldn't recommend giving out more than that.

The best way to learn modding is to experiment with it. Here is a good tutorial on kit making. Try looking at the code used for Valen, too. (Never played with her myself, so I know nothing about it.) WeiDU isn't too painful to get into as a total n00b, and remember that you can just ask here on the boards if you get stuck on something.

All in all I think it's a pretty interesting idea, and it's nowhere near as b0rken as I thought it'd be when I read the title of the thread. Good luck...





Which reminds me, I need to finish that "Dio's Improved Time Stop" micromod...

[Jarno Mikkola]

Can I have the character choose his spells? Don't you have to be a wizard to cast wizard spells?
It was meant to be a fighting class....

Yes, you just give them special abilities...
Now, if you want to make the kits to more acceptable(balance vice), I would recommend thinking long and hard the level indexes, as level 5 char rarely has access to +1 full plate armor. But you could give the char a special armor that updates itself every time you level up. This way, you can give it at the character creation, and put it to the Irenicus dungeon(at the start of BG2). Thinking here the compatibility with BGT and Tutu.

But if you are making fighter class, NEVER give them spells that aren't accessible to the same level mage or cleric... you can adjust the levels they are accured , but not their spell power...

[Jarno Mikkola]

Does this seem imbalanced to you? I thought it would end up actually kind of weak.

Not so much, but I would give the kit an regular(AC 3)platemail armor for level 1 upwards. As it then changes to full platemail in level 5 etc.
You might also want to make the weapon have different damage modes. But that might make the game lag, so... a better way might be to give the fighter different fists(weapons), so the weapon is just a one click away from different damage mode(slashing, crushing, piercing, magic damage ) at higher levels.
To get the item restrictions you want, one way is to make unremovable item sets for all the other item posts, and give the kit a fighters weapon restrictions. For example a blank unremovable ring, for the ring slots etc.

[vilkacis]

There already exist several weapons that can be switched between different uses in-game. Look at the Firetooth, Azuredge and so on to see how it's done. In this case you want abilities that are identical except for the damage type.

In order to equip those weapons and the armour, you need to make "spells" that create the desired item in the proper slot, then make the kit apply these on the proper level. For instance at first level, you have one effect that creates the weapons and an unremovable plate armour, then at lv5 there's one that upgrades it to full plate, and so on.

[Jarno Mikkola]

Great idea.
How do I do that?

Well, I was thinking more along the lines of four different sets of arms(weapons). After all, the fighter gets four different quick weapon item slots for different weapons, so why not use them. After all, he shouldn't be able to use any other weapon.

[vilkacis]

That might be a better idea, but what to stick in the fourth slot? There's only three types of damage, so one of them would be a duplicate. Which has no actual effect, of course, but it would just be so ugly.


Anyway, for an example of what I was talking, download this  testweapon.zip   1.14K   368 downloads and unzip it to your BG2 override folder, then start the game and create the item with CLUAConsole:CreateItem('JL#TEST'). You should be able to switch between S, P and B type damage, in that order.



(Quickly mspainted icons ftw... no, not really, but anyway.)

Note that this is actually a quick hack of the Firetooth dagger and needs further modification to be used in a real mod, but you're free to make use of it if you want.