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Planescape: Torment - TNO can't use items

Started by --melthaur-- , Jun 14 2009 03:57 PM

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#1 --melthaur--

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 03:57 PM

Hello,

first let me say how awesome this site and the mods from it are. Thanks :)

Now to my problem - if any:
While exploring The Hive I found several items like Ingress' Teeth, the box that spawns the fiend or Dakkon with his circle of Zerthimon.
Now I remember from previous times I played PS:T that I could go through a few circles with Dakkon right from the start - now when I use it it only shows the option to let the circle be. (This might of course be intended)
Same with Ingress' Teeth - when I give them to Morte and use them I can only choose to ignore them. If I put them into TNO's inventory and use them just nothing happens. (This could be a bug due to the Ingress' Teeth dialogue patch in UB? Both TNO and Morte are level 5 btw - I say this because I read the teeth are +1 at this point which means I should have been able to talk to them by now)
I also can't use the box with TNO - nothing happens again, no dialogue is shown. When I use it while it's in Morte's inventory I can open it. (Really can't explain this except bugged game)

I'm not certain if any of this is intended behaviour from mods I installed or really bugged. I would like to know either way so I can start over if needed.

Mods I installed:
FixPack
Tweaks
UB
G3 Widescreen
Ghostdog's PS:T UI

I patched my german version to the english one at first but re-installed the game after noticing the weird behaviour and I'm running it on german now. Both seemed to work flawlessly except this odd thing.

Thanks in advance :)

#2 melth

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 03:59 PM

Never thought I'd actually be one of those posters that accidentally end up posting as a guest because of cookie error.
The above is me - it's just too late <yawn>.

#3 Qwinn

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 11:43 PM

Just for future reference, I almost missed this. You'd be better off posting such issues in the forums for my mods, especially since you used them :) These really aren't "General Help" questions, they're pretty specific.

Anyways.

1. Taking Dak'kon through the circle requires decent intelligence and wisdom scores. From what you're saying, I'd guess at least one of them is rather low.

2. The teeth need to be used by TNO with Morte nearby. I have heard the situation you've described before, of TNO having difficulty using any items. I believe a save and load has been suggested as fixing the problem, have you tried that? If not, if you have a save game that you can load and still encounter the problem, I'd like to have a copy of it if possible so I can see if I can reproduce it on my machine and hopefully fix it.

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Edited by Qwinn, 14 June 2009 - 11:45 PM.

#4 melth

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 03:14 AM

Hey Qwinn,

thank you for intervening so soon.
I was thinking about posting this directly in one of the mod forums but then I wanted a 2nd opinion first before wasting your time.
Well.. too late :P

To 1: I have INT 18 and WIS 22 by now. Your remark made me remember that I used your Tome o' Cheats to boost STR/DEX/CON/CHA by a few points and I think INT by 1 in the beginning (wanted to experience more of the game while not missing the old stuff). If that is (part of) the problem.. well.. I tempted my fate ;)

To 2: I saved/loaded, reinstalled and did about everything I could think of.

For reference I made a new game (INT17, WIS18), ran through the mortuary and picked up the teeth, Dak'kon and the box. Both the teeth (hilarious btw) and the box worked fine - the circle of Zerthimon however still doesn't let me do stuff (I haven't leveled up so far though).

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#5 Qwinn

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 04:02 AM

I think you do have to be a mage to do the circle. Is it possible you're trying as a fighter or thief?

You have to start by asking Dak'kon to teach you about the Art, by the way. He then unlocks the circle for you to use. My guess is that is the issue. The stats you mentioned are high enough to at least do quite a few steps of the circle, if not necessarily to finish it.

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Edited by Qwinn, 15 June 2009 - 04:03 AM.

#6 Qwinn

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 04:30 AM

Alright, I loaded it, and yes, I can reproduce the problem. Not sure what's causing it. I'll toss it to scient whenever he comes back from internet limbo, to see if he can peek under the hood and find the problem.

A workaround you can use for now, though, to actually get Ingress's Teeth working is to use it from Dak'kon's inventory. If it doesn't work the first time (such as, you get Dak'kon's dialogue instead of the teeth's) just try it again and it should work then. If Morte is nearby, the teeth's banter dialogue should start and you should get a response other than "Ignore Teeth".

I wish you still had the tome of cheats on your character, it would be useful if I could see if the same problem happens with other conversable items. Your TNO doesn't seem to have problem using other non-conversable items like bandages and such.

If you keep playing with that game and find problems using other conversable items, please let me know.

Anyways, that said, if you've already caught up to where you were with your new playthrough, I'd just keep going with that. It really is better not to cheat in this game, there isn't enough challenge to it as it stands IMHO.

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Edited by Qwinn, 15 June 2009 - 04:30 AM.

#7 melth

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 05:03 AM

Thanks again for looking into it - the workaround with Dak'kon is quite nice, but yeah.. I decided to go through with the new game just in case I might get stuck somewhere along the way with this bug.

I left the Tome o' Cheats in the mortuary (to not get tempted later ;) ) and (in case you still want to look into it) I uploaded a savegame where I now have the tome, the teeth and Moridor's box - all not working properly from TNO's inventory.

And I don't really play PS:T for the challenge - more like an interactive book - that's why I cheated.  :whistling:

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Posted 18 August 2009 - 06:06 PM

Alright, I loaded it, and yes, I can reproduce the problem. Not sure what's causing it. I'll toss it to scient whenever he comes back from internet limbo, to see if he can peek under the hood and find the problem.

A workaround you can use for now, though, to actually get Ingress's Teeth working is to use it from Dak'kon's inventory. If it doesn't work the first time (such as, you get Dak'kon's dialogue instead of the teeth's) just try it again and it should work then. If Morte is nearby, the teeth's banter dialogue should start and you should get a response other than "Ignore Teeth".

I wish you still had the tome of cheats on your character, it would be useful if I could see if the same problem happens with other conversable items. Your TNO doesn't seem to have problem using other non-conversable items like bandages and such.

If you keep playing with that game and find problems using other conversable items, please let me know.

Anyways, that said, if you've already caught up to where you were with your new playthrough, I'd just keep going with that. It really is better not to cheat in this game, there isn't enough challenge to it as it stands IMHO.

Qwinn



Hi, im french, my name is sidd. i just buyed PS:T some hours ago and i have a problem with this teeth, too.

Actually, right after the dialog with morte, the game close. Is this a known bug ? Maybe a recent patche can fix it, but i didnt find any mention of this bug on the web ...

Maybe i should just forget about the teeth and go on without it ? Will i miss something big ?

In advance, thanks for the help.

#9 -mike-

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 12:46 AM

Alright, I loaded it, and yes, I can reproduce the problem. Not sure what's causing it. I'll toss it to scient whenever he comes back from internet limbo, to see if he can peek under the hood and find the problem.

A workaround you can use for now, though, to actually get Ingress's Teeth working is to use it from Dak'kon's inventory. If it doesn't work the first time (such as, you get Dak'kon's dialogue instead of the teeth's) just try it again and it should work then. If Morte is nearby, the teeth's banter dialogue should start and you should get a response other than "Ignore Teeth".

I wish you still had the tome of cheats on your character, it would be useful if I could see if the same problem happens with other conversable items. Your TNO doesn't seem to have problem using other non-conversable items like bandages and such.

If you keep playing with that game and find problems using other conversable items, please let me know.

Anyways, that said, if you've already caught up to where you were with your new playthrough, I'd just keep going with that. It really is better not to cheat in this game, there isn't enough challenge to it as it stands IMHO.

Qwinn



Hi, im french, my name is sidd. i just buyed PS:T some hours ago and i have a problem with this teeth, too.

Actually, right after the dialog with morte, the game close. Is this a known bug ? Maybe a recent patche can fix it, but i didnt find any mention of this bug on the web ...

Maybe i should just forget about the teeth and go on without it ? Will i miss something big ?

In advance, thanks for the help.


I have same problem as french guy, i am trying to work around with near infinity... hopefully just change 00 to 01 for INGRESS_TEETH_INSTALLED

#10 -Hoku-

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 06:34 AM

I have a similair problem; the banter goes to "... ugly little berks, aren't they?" to which I cannot reply at all, but am forced to shut the game down.

#11 -Peter-

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 02:46 PM

I am also having a problem with Ingress' Teeth, but not only will TNO not be able to converse with them, Morte can even EQUIP them. I have save game which is just before getting the teeth from Candrian. If the Recommended Unfinished Business mod is installed and I load and complete the quest, the teeth are red in Morte's inventory, they can't be equiped and I only get "Ignore teeth." dialog from them. Without the mod, it works fine.


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