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[aigleborgne]

Hello,

I have finally tested PnP Fey creatures (I don't play at all these days, only modding) and I like it.
But, there is something missing : when using charm ability, there is no target priority, or at least, not an interesting one.

My level 5 test party (globally a well balanced party):
- priest of talos
- berserker with 2 weapons
- archer
- cavalier with 2 handed weapon
- 2 x sorcerer

In my tests, my party was not fighting back.
I create an hamadryad and see how it fights.

2 charms on priest, sorcerer, and one failed (saves). Until TobEx allow us to customize "charm script", my party was barely weaken.
I've also seen that it casts many entangle, too many?

I've made several tests, and globally, it was more or less the same result.

After, I tried my own PnP Fey componnent (which is surely less good than yours, but still far better than unmodded feys).
Hamadryad successfully charmed my 3 fighters (berserker, archer, cavalier) and those charmed allies wiped out my party very quickly.
This is my point : charming a fighter is more efficient.

Now, I'm aware than berserker could have used enrage and been immuned and Cavalier should be immuned to charm.
I don't know why he was charmed, maybe a bug in that kit or a need to be protected from every charm spells.

Anyways, even with correct immunities, dryad would have tried to charm them anyways (unless I activate immunities detection before generating my scripts)

[aVENGER]

2 charms on priest, sorcerer, and one failed (saves). Until TobEx allow us to customize "charm script", my party was barely weaken.

It depends on who was in the Hamadryad's line of sight. She is scripted to run away from melee combat which can make her run away from fighters. If you examine aTweaks' scripts, you'll see that all creatures who use charm/domination spells tend to prioritize Fighters/Rangers/Paladins (unless they are elves/half-elves which get ignored due to their innate charm resistance). Try running a few more tests but make sure that all party members are in the dryad's line of sight and you'll notice that she goes for the warriors first.

BTW, were your archer and berserker elven or half-elven by any chance?

I've also seen that it casts many entangle, too many?

Sadly, there's no reliable way to determine that an area effect spell is currently active using the IE scripting language. Some workarounds with invisible creatures are possible but I prefer to avoid that approach.

Edited by aVENGER, 29 January 2012 - 04:10 AM.

[aigleborgne]

All humans. I've tried again and make sure they are all packed together and yes, she charmed my 2 warriors, I was probably unlucky my first tries.
She still avoids cavalier but I suppose it is due to its immunity.

It depends on who was in the Hamadryad's line of sight. She is scripted to run away from melee combat which can make her run away from fighters. If you examine aTweaks' scripts, you'll see that all creatures who use charm/domination spells tend to prioritize Fighters/Rangers/Paladins (unless they are elves/half-elves which get ignored due to their innate charm resistance). Try running a few more tests but make sure that all party members are in the dryad's line of sight and you'll notice that she goes for the warriors first.
BTW, were your archer and berserker elven or half-elven by any chance?

[Shaitan]

Hi

Just tried the BG1 NPC Project Beador fight. There're lots of druids who summons forth Hamadryads. Again and again I had my party charmed and indeed it was warriors first, who then killed off the rest...
Party consisting of
Ajantis
Jaheira
PC F/M
Khalid
Gavin
Imoen

[aVENGER]

Just tried the BG1 NPC Project Beador fight. There're lots of druids who summons forth Hamadryads. Again and again I had my party charmed and indeed it was warriors first, who then killed off the rest...

I'm glad the AI is working as expected for you.

And, uhm, sorry about your party.