Hiya all from here in Oz once more.

My problems came from not enough options... Okay some people say that was the opposite by I continue.

I did offer romance to anny race and class, but avoided evil characters, now this is something you said that you would include so I'll leave it at that.

Lord M. did include some things that were out of place, not usually with the writing, but with the swearing and like mentioned above, the Drow events.

Another thing that you have mentioned is that there will be space for both friendship and possible romance, yet Lord M. seemed to only offer softcore porn at every turn instead.

I agree that what I have seen of your dialogue over the last few years, is better than Old Jason's Immie dialogue anyday.

And as mentioned a while ago and wouldn't mind an Imoen+PC pregnancy or instead a cat named Gospel and a blue dog named Cybersquirt!!!


LSWSjr of LSWSjr Australia singing off

Hiya Quitch, LSWSjr here with a wish list (if not an almost unachievable one)...

What I would like to see if I could wish for almost anything in this mod would be:
1. Imoen and the PC to get a cat named Gospel and a dog named Littiz or Cybersquirt (a blue dog?) ;
2. Imoen getting to know my romances, including aiding my PC to choose during the conflicts point of the romances;
3. Imoen as my wedding Bridesmaid (w/ Anomen) or Best (Wo)Man/Person (w/ Aerie);
4. An appearance of Gorion pre/post-evil temple spirit in ToB, maybe even giving Imoen and my PC his blessing (in a romance that is);
5. An Imoen vamping and interactions with the aforementioned evil temple spirit
(Gorion: "Look at you sinful children, it was not I that raised you as such to be")
6. General increase in interactions with the other NPCs, especially Sarevok and Boo ;
7. Evil Imoen (sort of an already okayed, but still on my wish list);
8. Imoen doing something about that Tiefling's flirting w/ her (might be too much work to do however);
9. A wedding (in ToB romance), maybe just like Aerie or Anomen's, or maybe with it's own Area Event (in a church or temple), with the NPCs all with their interactions, maybe with Elminster and Volo in the sidelines. B)

That's all for now it seems...

LSWSjr of LSWSjr Publications/Productions/Studios Australia, signing off

Quoted from Solar on 19th Oct 2003: "Ahem.... I think that most of those who want Imoen to be lesbian or bi are actually straight men...."

Greetings and welcome Solar to this particular forum...   

Just let me state as fact, that I have been arguing on this particular part of the forum for a duel (based on who she loves) or bi choice.       

I admit to having played female PCs, even though I am a male, and I don't actually see any 'special' attraction to seeing my female PC getting it 'ON' with Imoen, anymore than I would with my male PC...  Wait that came out wrong  B)

Rather I would like to see how Imoen would react to the situation, considering this is not only her sibling, but a woman as well.  This is not to say she might not already be a lesbian, but rather that the situation is far from what heterosexual persons would consider as the norm.  I am also assuming you are of the opposite gender to myself...   to have made that sort of comment.

If I or any other males wanted to see two women getting intimate, we could be heading off to millions of sites or sources of such material from the Internet-to-our Corner Newsagent.  

If we wanted Imoen slash in particular, I'm sure we could find some site that caters for us somewhere.  

In truth though, I would (upon the mod's release) play through with a female PC in the interest of observing how the relationship with Imoen changes from my female and male PCs, and this includes the 'Just Friends' aspect of the mod.  

I truly doubt that the few but more devoted men out there would go through the 20 or so hours of Romance Global Variables simply to see some Bhaalspawn sister on sister action.  

Lastly I'll say again where is the bi issue if Kelsey isn't trying to romance Imoen as well.  


LSWSjr of LSWSjr Publications/Productions/Studios Australia, signing off and celebrating his 50th post (took me long enough + hence the overuse of Smilies)

Well isn't this undignified, LSWSjr posting without his ID, well I never.

Hmm, sorry for that then.

LSWSjr of LSWSjr Publications/Productions/Studios Australia, signing off

Not going to happen.

Aww, come on Quitch, don't be so mean, are you telling me you're not strong enough to handle the challenge of making something decent of this mod, something that can be enjoyed by the full span of your gaming public...  

I mean really, by saying it's "not going to happen" and work to the best of it's parameters, is like saying you're not dedicated or up to the task of making this the best Imoen Relationship module ever.  

And even though I have nothing against Lord M's current work, yours was always a sure bet on being the supreme example of any Imoen mod ever done.  

So to conclude, by saying you won't make it so accessible to all players in general, is simply implying that you lack the strength of will, time, patience and dedication to make this something that can be enjoyed by the full spectrum of BGII gamers, rather than the few whose ideas, you are willing to indulge.  

And to Tancred, I agree, that Allyson Hannigan would make the best Imoen for a live action BG movie.  B)

LSWSjr of LSWSjr Productions/Publications/Studios Australia, signing off  

After many months in isolation in the deep outback, I have returned to present a by the general numbers solution to not only Imoen's sexuality, but the Romance/Friendship issue as well.  I call it "A Tale of Six Gamers"

Once upon a year from now their were six devoted Baldur's Gate II players, to be fair let's say their characters added up to being three Male Protagonists and three Female Protagonists, they all liked modding and building upon the BGII experience.  These six little games had never heard of this Forum or the Imoen Relationship Mod, or Quitch or any of the other people who helped to build this Forum.  Having now received this mod the gamers happily installed it to their own personal computer, and each had their own personal relationship towards Imoen, being:

-Gamer 01: Was a Female Protagonist interested in a Romance with Imoen;
-Gamer 02: Was a Male Protagonist interested in a Romance with Imoen;
-Gamer 03: Was a Female Protagonist interested in a deep Friendship with Imoen;
-Gamer 04: Was a Male Protagonist interested in a deep Friendship with Imoen;
-Gamer 05: Was a Female Protagonist not the least bit interested at all in Imoen;
-Gamer 06: Was a Male Protagonist not the least bit interested at all in Imoen.

Now each gamer has their own computer and are isolated from each other, with each able to experience the mod without outside interference.

-Gamers 01 & 02: Were able to Romance Imoen as they wished;
-Gamers 03 & 04: Were granted a deeper relationship with Imoen they always wanted;
-Gamers 05 & 06: Found out what idiots they were for download, installing, etc, because they didn't even like Imoen in the first place.

And every one lived happily ever after.

Now in the above story only two Gamers had to worry about Imoen's sexuality, they were the ones that wanted to Romance her, and the issue of Bisexuality never came up because (without the Installation of Kelsey TOB) Imoen does not choose between two characters of any gender.
Secondly NO Gamers had to worry about the Relationship Issue, because that (as Quitch has said) was/is the original basis for the Mod and should always have been there.  It should be noted though that the last two Gamers really didn't care!!!

Why can't the future of this Mod (when released) be like this, everyone (interested unlike Gamers 05 & 06) gets the Relationship part of the module and those who want to romance Imoen get their part included regardless of Gender, for as I have said before (and in some previous posts) there is no need to worry about sexual preference, if Kelsey is not installed their is no Romancing for Imoen anyway, so why the bisexuality issue.  As many (including me) in the past have said there is NO evidence that she would swing any direction (excluding the Infamous "Official Novel(s)"), but based on her character, which is noted as evidence, she forms connections with those who treat her well, and her strongest bond (in most cases) is with the Protagonist, so why not have a Romance.

Although we love(d) to continue to debate about this topic, the mod users out there are not involved, so who are we to restrict their playtime, I say now to Quitch give ?em everything and what they want to use they can do naturally those that want a Romance, etc, can just progress through the Relationship part of the module, onto that pathway instead, and no one is forced to play one way or another, it?s just all in the decisions of the Protagonist and Imoen?

LSWSjr of LSWSjr Publications/Productions/Studios Australia returning to the Forum and for now at least signing off

P.S. Hiya to Littiz, Gospel, and the many others I missed bantering with?