18 replies to this topic

[ddlam]

I have installed the Refinement V2 and kido v3.1
and after that the custom item of Kido cannot use by Kido
then I uninstall Refinement and Kido works fine again

Sorry for my poor english grammar

[Littiz]

At the moment I'm not able to download the Kido mod...
Can you maybe attach a copy of the involved .ITM file?
Maybe we can tailor a specific tp2 action to avoid conflicts

[ddlam]

I just copy form my override folders

Edit: ah, there's an upgraded weapon of him

Attached Files

•  kdagg.itm   410bytes   8 downloads
•  khood.itm   210bytes   5 downloads
•  ikdagg.itm   410bytes   5 downloads

Edited by ddlam, 27 March 2005 - 01:31 AM.

[Littiz]

Ahh, stupid me.
It's the sword angel component, of course.

Well, if you're not going to have a SA as protagonist, you can simply avoid that component, the rest of the mod should work fine.
In case you want to play indeed with a SA, well, I'll have to come up with something (but I don't think it's the case, right? Being Kido Chaotic Evil and all...)

[ddlam]

oh, thanks a lot
will it be fixed in next version? :^^:

[Littiz]

I'll see what I can do

[Caedwyr]

Another mod that is probably incompatible is the PnP Celestials mod unless Littiz, T.G.M, and The Bigg did some fancy coding that I don't know about. Mostly this is because both mods deal with the same issue (PnP Celestials affects the high level abilities, as does Refinements 2.0)

[the bigg]

Dr Sorceror: it's impossible to make them work together.
PnP Celestials: not to my knowledge; install Refinements, then PnP Celestials if you want the Cels improved as per the PnP mod; otherwise, don't install PnP Celestials

[the bigg]

I don't believe there could be any problems. Possible rough edges are:

1) spell scrolls (or other item) usability: report item code, or if you cannot use NI, item name.
2) custom kits: it's better not to use them.
3) Anything else: bash my head, then report.

EDIT: stated clearer.

Edited by the bigg, 31 March 2005 - 01:23 AM.

[Talib]

I don't know how much work you folks want to put into making the mod compatible with eveything under the sun but isn't there a weidu command that could detect for kido and then append his item to be restricted to skalds rather than jesters upon installing the sword angel component?

Edited by Talib, 31 May 2005 - 02:24 PM.

[the bigg]

Well, Kido is a jester, and we use the jester unusability bit as a previously underused one, and I don't know wether there is much point in making them compatible, especially considering the amount of work required, and the fact that Kido is CE, you wouldn't have him in party if you were a NG Sword Angel...

[Talib]

Fair enough.  It probably is more work than it's worth.  Especially when a note in the readme about compatability with kido would probably be easier.

[Littiz]

I don't know how much work you folks want to put into making the mod compatible with eveything under the sun but isn't there a weidu command that could detect for kido and then append his item to be restricted to skalds rather than jesters upon installing the sword angel component?

This was the very same idea I had when this problem was first reported.
I just had troubles downloading the Kido mod, and forgot to address the issue later.

Anyway, this can be done. After all, if one uses SA, the protagonist is chosen already, so you'd have a "conflict" only if you used Kido together with a NPC Skald (I don't know any), and if you decided to equip the skald with Kido's item (which you could avoid anyway).
Reasonable answer to a surely rare problem.
We might even patch the item in order to tailor its requisites to Kido's stats, this would further reduce the (already insanely low) chances of "conflict".

As for alignment combos: @the_bigg, I plan to use my Sword Angel (currently in a TuTu game) together with Viconia and Sarevok, when I get that far

[the bigg]

Anyway, this can be done. After all, if one uses SA, the protagonist is chosen already, so you'd have a "conflict" only if you used Kido together with a NPC Skald (I don't know any), and if you decided to equip the skald with Kido's item (which you could avoid anyway).
Reasonable answer to a surely rare problem.
We might even patch the item in order to tailor its requisites to Kido's stats, this would further reduce the (already insanely low) chances of "conflict".

Oh yeah, how true

As for alignment combos: @the_bigg, I plan to use my Sword Angel (currently in a TuTu game) together with Viconia and Sarevok, when I get that far

That's because you use out-of-game knowledge to foresee that they can be saved and turned to neutral or good

[Littiz]

Oh yeah, how true 

hm, what do you mean?

That's because you use out-of-game knowledge to foresee that they can be saved and turned to neutral or good 

You can even "try" to influence someone and fail (and in case of Viconia, there's no chance unless you have a male PC and decide to go through the romance)
Every party combo is allowed to a SA, imho

[the bigg]

Oh yeah, how true 

hm, what do you mean?

That you can patch Kido's dagger and you needn't re-write all the hack (as I was somehow thinking).

[T.G.Maestro]

That's because you use out-of-game knowledge to foresee that they can be saved and turned to neutral or good

Blasphemy.