27 replies to this topic

[AnnabelleRose]

First off, it it has not been said, thank you for creating it. It is a wonderful resource and one of my favorite websites.

I was wondering if a sub-category might be made for the games, the "joke mod" category. There are a few jokes on there, and some of them can really hose your game. They might be fun, but the last thing we want is a new mod-user giving up on the community and mods because of one joke mod.

[Andyr]

I am not sure how frequently Ice visits the boards these days (he is pretty busy), so you might have more luck PMing him at PPG or G3.

[jcompton]

I think it's really for the best if you don't ask us to start classifying which mods we consider to be jokes.

[ronin]

Where is his list at?

ronin

[Seifer]

I think it's really for the best if you don't ask us to start classifying which mods we consider to be jokes.

Well, talk about totally shooting down a compliment. All MTS was asking for was a new category.

[jcompton]

Where is his list at?

http://modlist.pocketplane.net

Well, talk about totally shooting down a compliment. All MTS was asking for was a new category.

You, of all people, should appreciate the dangers of subjectivity.

[ronin]

Oh...that modlist...geez now I feel really stupid asking the question I asked before...thats one of my favorite bookmarks.

ronin

[AnnabelleRose]

One can add one's own entries to the modlist, which is what makes it so wonderful.  There isn't one specific person on which the burden for keeping it updated lies.

Then again, there is something to be said for not listing terrible mods.  (Yes, I'm aware Goo is on there. )

As said above, people would add their own. Not asking the moderators to move mods.

[jcompton]

Yes, but keeping the modlist properly organized is part of the territory. If someone adds a mod to the PST section when it is in fact an Icewind Dale romance, then we would of course move it.

Similarly, if someone submitted a mod that we concluded was a joke to a non-joke area, we would have to move it to the joke area. This would then result in mass hysteria and rioting.

[AnnabelleRose]

People do tend to throw fits when things happen they don't like.

[Stone Wolf]

I'd assume that mods would only be placed in the joke category if the author requested it.

[jcompton]

And at any rate, we're not adding a "joke" category, voluntary or compulsory. Yes, I do think it's a shame when people are put off of modding, but this is why there are also resources which review mods or offer individual recommendations, and why the free and open discussion of mod quality and mod recommendations should be encouraged rather than restricted and censored.

Rest assured, we do agonize from time to time over whether we would be justified to append "For Chrissake, don't download this!" to some mod descriptions.

[Lord Ernie]

Hmmm... perhaps add a user rating system, or something? While it may not filter out all the bad stuff, it'd warn for the terrible ones out there.

[Kulyok]

It could be helpful if there were a review or two attached to each mod, I suppose. The problem is that such reviews tend to be of "praise" nature, instead of concentrating on bugs, inconcistency with the game content and other problematic issues. I fail to see how it can be encouraged, however: the only full NPC mods review I have seen was at ironworks.com, and, as I recall, it provoked a good deal of hostility. As for the quest/kit mods, the information is sorely lacking. The issue is the same: too often, critique is perceived as personal offence of the modder in question.

[Galactygon]

It could be helpful if there were a review or two attached to each mod, I suppose. The problem is that such reviews tend to be of "praise" nature, instead of concentrating on bugs, inconcistency with the game content and other problematic issues.

When TeamBG started its modlist, there were review sections for many of the mods. There should be at least a rating for each of the mods, since many people would be too lazy/have little time for full-fledged reviews.

-Galactygon

[Kulyok]

I am against plain rating, actually, because very much of it is a matter of taste, especially mods concentrating on writing. Concerning NPC's, some people like action text, some do not. Some like explicit sex scene descriptions, some do not. Some like jokes, some do not. The list could go on endlessly, and people would never agree on anything. So, a review, even a two-paragraph review, would be more helpful to a player, in my opinion.

Edited by Kulyok, 10 October 2005 - 09:16 AM.

[Galactygon]

Both should be fine. While opinions vary a great deal, they have a tendency to recognize quality work.

-Galactygon

[discharger12]

It could be helpful if there were a review or two attached to each mod, I suppose. The problem is that such reviews tend to be of "praise" nature, instead of concentrating on bugs, inconcistency with the game content and other problematic issues.

When TeamBG started its modlist, there were review sections for many of the mods. There should be at least a rating for each of the mods, since many people would be too lazy/have little time for full-fledged reviews.

-Galactygon

I agree, a public rating system would be nice. Would help seperating the good mods from the not-so-good mods.

Unless touchy people would disagree, but since when has PPG being touchy-feely?

(That was not a crack on PPG)