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#1 Bookwyrme

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Posted 28 May 2006 - 01:54 PM

How, with, and by what to the people of the FR swear?

The only example I can think of right now is BG2's "Helm's Beard!" What else is used? Is there a pattern?

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#2 Grunker

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Posted 28 May 2006 - 02:07 PM

"By the Bitch Queen's Breath" is one. "By Moradin's Hammer" another. From the examples I recall, the god's seem to be a part of the most of the swearing done in the realms.
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Posted 29 May 2006 - 04:08 AM

I recall reading somewhere that a combination of sexual/genital element and godly one is also quite popular.
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#4 Archmage Silver

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Posted 29 May 2006 - 07:23 AM

Well... here's some more.

"By the Nine Hells"
"To the Nine Hells with you [Insert name here]"
"By the Abyss"

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Posted 29 May 2006 - 09:27 AM

So is the "god + bodypart" a matter of using body parts the god is actually famous for, or is it more or less randomly generated?

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#6 Delight

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Posted 29 May 2006 - 09:53 AM

Well, I recall Danilo Thann using "Beshaba's breasts", so it's a combined effect of body part associated with sex and god :) .
Also words like spear, dagger or sword are often used as phallic symbols ;) .
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#7 Creepin

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Posted 29 May 2006 - 10:51 AM

"By the Bitch Queen's Breath" is one. "By Moradin's Hammer" another.

You forget "By Clangeddin's twinaxes" and "By icy breath of Auril" ;)

So is the "god + bodypart" a matter of using body parts the god is actually famous for, or is it more or less randomly generated?

Both, I believe. I'm re-reading Fritz Leiber's "Fafhrd & Grey Mouser" cycle ATM, and it has (although it's not quite FR :)) plenty of swearing by gods' main attributes as well as by their random bodyparts :D

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Posted 29 May 2006 - 12:06 PM

Heh, I remember "By Sune's boobies!" from the original Baldur's Gate.

I know I've seen "bloody" a few times in Baldur's Gate, and I think I've seen "hells" used more or less the way "hell" is in our culture ("what in the hells?" etc.)...

"Tyranny is a quiet thing at first, a prim and proper lady pursing her lips and shaking her head disapprovingly, asking, well what were you doing (wearing that dress, walking home at that hour, expressing those inappropriate thoughts) anyway? It's subtle and insidious, disguised as reasonable precautions which become more and more oppressive over time, until our lives are defined by the things we must avoid. She's easy enough to agree with, after all, she's only trying to help -- and yet she's one of the most dangerous influences we face, because if she prevails, it puts the raping, robbing, axe-wielding madmen of the world in complete control. Eventually they'll barely need to wield a thing, all they'll have to do is leer menacingly and we fall all over ourselves trying to placate them." -godlizard


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Posted 30 May 2006 - 12:21 AM

I personally always thought using 'hell' isn`t really feasible in the FR, due to the existence of more than one hell. Somehow saying 'hells' instead of 'hell' sounds a lot more fitting. Although maybe it`s just me. :P

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Posted 13 June 2006 - 10:45 AM

more than one hell

HMM? More hells? Cool! They also look different to eachother? But... why nine? WOOW, someone could do a game with that!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 13 June 2006 - 11:05 AM

while were on the subject id like to know if "homeboyz" is an appropriate term for fr???

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Posted 13 June 2006 - 01:35 PM

The only person I can envision using it is Cespenar.

"Tyranny is a quiet thing at first, a prim and proper lady pursing her lips and shaking her head disapprovingly, asking, well what were you doing (wearing that dress, walking home at that hour, expressing those inappropriate thoughts) anyway? It's subtle and insidious, disguised as reasonable precautions which become more and more oppressive over time, until our lives are defined by the things we must avoid. She's easy enough to agree with, after all, she's only trying to help -- and yet she's one of the most dangerous influences we face, because if she prevails, it puts the raping, robbing, axe-wielding madmen of the world in complete control. Eventually they'll barely need to wield a thing, all they'll have to do is leer menacingly and we fall all over ourselves trying to placate them." -godlizard


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Posted 13 June 2006 - 02:31 PM


more than one hell

HMM? More hells? Cool! They also look different to eachother? But... why nine? WOOW, someone could do a game with that!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, they look quite different from each other. :)

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Posted 14 June 2006 - 07:05 PM

Don't forget "By Valkur's Strapping Buttocks!!" :)

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 01:31 PM

Sylvanus' armpits. :-P

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Posted 26 April 2007 - 06:09 AM


more than one hell

HMM? More hells? Cool! They also look different to eachother? But... why nine? WOOW, someone could do a game with that!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, they look quite different from each other. :)



And I always get the feeling that they copied quite a lot from The Divine Comedy (yes, despite the name it's about the layers of hell) by Dante Alighieri, especially who ends up where.



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#17 NiGHTMARE

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Posted 28 April 2007 - 05:09 AM

In 1st edition D&D, the planes of evil were even more similar to Christian mythology. They changed them a bit for 2E in an attempt to appease the more zealous Christians.

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#18 Bardess

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Posted 12 May 2007 - 01:24 AM

Yup, there are exactly nine circles of hell in Dante Alighieri's drama. Maybe they had a Dante in FR as well :rolleyes:

This is an interesting thread. In some fanfiction, though, I've read very ordinary and vulgar swearing (because the character in question doesn't worship gods, maybe doesn't even believe in them).

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Posted 12 May 2007 - 08:11 AM

Several FR novels have featured oaths that dosn't invoke a particular god, though some are used only by people living in a certain region or who belong to a particular profession. Examples include "hellfire!", "dark!" or "dark and empty!", "bind me!", "whoreson!", and "knave!"

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