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#1
Posted 15 June 2006 - 05:08 PM
Just finished a Bp massive install. Took about 8 hours, between reading readmes,install order,and forums, and two headaches. I think I still managed to fubar the install. Started the game and played for a while, and have 2 problems.
In Irenicus dungeon Ilyich does a 'duergar transformation' into a mouse or something when he is near death and 'escapes into a mousehole in the wall'(thats the text message anyway) I cannot find the bugger anywhere. The other duergar turned into giants too(again duergar transformation), but were killed without running. I read the readmes but can't find what mod this is, and where is that rat with the acorns and mail of the dead. I definitely didn't install tactics ilyich. The only thing I got from tactics was Improved Sahuagin,anti-paladin kit, imp north forest,imp druid grove,imp fire giants.
Then I couldn't leave the level - even with the portal key, so I went through the Nej portal. Once in Easthaven Hrothgar "has nothing to say to you" and I can't start quest. The other characters Dar and the girl in the temple are the same too.
The game runs smooth and I don't see any text errors or crashes, but I am stuck. Please tell me I can fix this without reinstalling. I followed the install directions by the Seanas post.
Install:just BG2,mods, and BP(no BGT)
0)BG2,tob,patch
1)BP weidu 1.5
2)Nej2v42 + Nej2v602patch (I couln't get nejbiffer to work, but rest installed ok)
3)SOS1.1 weidu/TDD1.1 weidu
4)TS-BP weidu 6.04.02
5)skipped (BGT not installed)
6)other weidu mods...
1a)Deeper Shadows of Amn 2.2 (without gnome, crypt king, kanjaxx- bp has already)
2a)Selune armory
3a)Banter Pack v6
4a)Hellion kit v3
5a)COM encounters v101
6a)Beyond the Law
7a)Unfinished Business v15
8a)Npc Flirt v101
9a)Dingo Quest pack v23 (actually put after BP, at 24a)
10a)Kelsey v21
11a)Kelsey Tob v22
12a)Keto v2
13a)Tashia v205g
14a)Solafein v106
15a)Item upgrade v32
16a)Underrepr Items v5
17a)Cespy audio v1
18a)Tactics v23 partial (only improved sahuagin, anti paladin kit, north forest, Imp druid grove, Imp fire giants)
19a)FR-ROV v3
20a)Planar Sphere v2.2
21a)Munchmod v2.6 (man am I tired of typing this)
22a)BP v176 beta
23a)Ease of use v32 partial (minus what seanas/salk told not to install)
24a)DO Quest pack v23
25a)BGT 4wmv6 (worldmap v5? according to seanas directions)
=trouble. Where did I go wrong?
#2
Posted 15 June 2006 - 06:55 PM
In Irenicus dungeon Ilyich does a 'duergar transformation' into a mouse or something when he is near death and 'escapes into a mousehole in the wall'(thats the text message anyway) I cannot find the bugger anywhere. The other duergar turned into giants too(again duergar transformation), but were killed without running.
No bug here, you will find him sometime in the future.
I Ride for the King!
a.k.a. Chev
#3
Posted 15 June 2006 - 07:46 PM
I can't seem to add my weidu log to the post (keep getting a not allowed message)
#4
Posted 15 June 2006 - 08:31 PM
I Ride for the King!
a.k.a. Chev
#5
Posted 15 June 2006 - 08:49 PM
WeiDU.txt 9.5K 173 downloads
Edited by maximus2001, 15 June 2006 - 09:04 PM.
#6
Posted 15 June 2006 - 08:53 PM
I Ride for the King!
a.k.a. Chev
#7
Posted 15 June 2006 - 11:40 PM
And I see you only installed Part 1 of NeJ2
I Ride for the King!
a.k.a. Chev
#8
Posted 16 June 2006 - 12:44 AM
I don't see '~SETUP-NEJ2V602.TP2~ #0 #0 // Never Ending Journey v6.02 (cummulative patch)' I think you skipped it.
And I see you only installed Part 1 of NeJ2
I thought I might have missed something but nej patch is in there. When I ran Nej2 v602 I thought it installed nej1 and nej2. If that is the problem though do I have to reinstall everything?
Setup_NeJ2v602.tp2 57.13K 310 downloads
#9
Posted 16 June 2006 - 12:54 AM
but the question to be answered first is: why did NEJ2 only install part of itself? can you post the debug files that weidu automatically generates? they should be called SETUP-NEJ2.DEBUG and SETUP-NEJ2V602.DEBUG. you can open them using notepad - and you might need to save them as .txt files to attach to the forum. we might be able ot work out why NEJ2 didnt install properly once we've seen the debug file.
"A simple test of the relative merits of science and religion is to compare lighting your house at night by prayer or electricity" - A. C. Grayling
"EFF files have saves, too." - CamDawg
|| this is radio seanas || BP Series v3 || seanas at work ||
#10
Posted 16 June 2006 - 03:33 AM
Hello all,
Just finished a Bp massive install. Took about 8 hours, between reading readmes,install order,and forums, and two headaches. I think I still managed to fubar the install. Started the game and played for a while, and have 2 problems.
In Irenicus dungeon Ilyich does a 'duergar transformation' into a mouse or something when he is near death and 'escapes into a mousehole in the wall'(thats the text message anyway) I cannot find the bugger anywhere. The other duergar turned into giants too(again duergar transformation), but were killed without running. I read the readmes but can't find what mod this is, and where is that rat with the acorns and mail of the dead. I definitely didn't install tactics ilyich. The only thing I got from tactics was Improved Sahuagin,anti-paladin kit, imp north forest,imp druid grove,imp fire giants.
Then I couldn't leave the level - even with the portal key, so I went through the Nej portal. Once in Easthaven Hrothgar "has nothing to say to you" and I can't start quest. The other characters Dar and the girl in the temple are the same too.
The game runs smooth and I don't see any text errors or crashes, but I am stuck. Please tell me I can fix this without reinstalling. I followed the install directions by the Seanas post.
Install:just BG2,mods, and BP(no BGT)
0)BG2,tob,patch
1)BP weidu 1.5
2)Nej2v42 + Nej2v602patch (I couln't get nejbiffer to work, but rest installed ok)
3)SOS1.1 weidu/TDD1.1 weidu
4)TS-BP weidu 6.04.02
5)skipped (BGT not installed)
6)other weidu mods...
1a)Deeper Shadows of Amn 2.2 (without gnome, crypt king, kanjaxx- bp has already)
2a)Selune armory
3a)Banter Pack v6
4a)Hellion kit v3
5a)COM encounters v101
6a)Beyond the Law
7a)Unfinished Business v15
8a)Npc Flirt v101
9a)Dingo Quest pack v23 (actually put after BP, at 24a)
10a)Kelsey v21
11a)Kelsey Tob v22
12a)Keto v2
13a)Tashia v205g
14a)Solafein v106
15a)Item upgrade v32
16a)Underrepr Items v5
17a)Cespy audio v1
18a)Tactics v23 partial (only improved sahuagin, anti paladin kit, north forest, Imp druid grove, Imp fire giants)
19a)FR-ROV v3
20a)Planar Sphere v2.2
21a)Munchmod v2.6 (man am I tired of typing this)
22a)BP v176 beta
23a)Ease of use v32 partial (minus what seanas/salk told not to install)
24a)DO Quest pack v23
25a)BGT 4wmv6 (worldmap v5? according to seanas directions)
=trouble. Where did I go wrong?
I could be wrong it has been known and i do have a very bad hangover which is affecting my ability to think straight, but the Ilyich rat thing is a BP component and if you install NEJ you have a problem in getting the acorns and mail because he runs onto the second dungeon level which you can't access until you return from NEJ land. Obviously, your NEJ is bad looking at your log and post. your biffer not working is curious. the biffer is run before NEJ which when its finished biffing then ask you if you want to install. did you do it in the correct order its not in the read me. anyway hope this helps. B)
oops sorry for doble post server timed out and i posted again, can some admin type delete one if there passing
Edited by wellunhappy, 16 June 2006 - 03:54 AM.
#11
Posted 16 June 2006 - 03:35 AM
Hello all,
Just finished a Bp massive install. Took about 8 hours, between reading readmes,install order,and forums, and two headaches. I think I still managed to fubar the install. Started the game and played for a while, and have 2 problems.
In Irenicus dungeon Ilyich does a 'duergar transformation' into a mouse or something when he is near death and 'escapes into a mousehole in the wall'(thats the text message anyway) I cannot find the bugger anywhere. The other duergar turned into giants too(again duergar transformation), but were killed without running. I read the readmes but can't find what mod this is, and where is that rat with the acorns and mail of the dead. I definitely didn't install tactics ilyich. The only thing I got from tactics was Improved Sahuagin,anti-paladin kit, imp north forest,imp druid grove,imp fire giants.
Then I couldn't leave the level - even with the portal key, so I went through the Nej portal. Once in Easthaven Hrothgar "has nothing to say to you" and I can't start quest. The other characters Dar and the girl in the temple are the same too.
The game runs smooth and I don't see any text errors or crashes, but I am stuck. Please tell me I can fix this without reinstalling. I followed the install directions by the Seanas post.
Install:just BG2,mods, and BP(no BGT)
0)BG2,tob,patch
1)BP weidu 1.5
2)Nej2v42 + Nej2v602patch (I couln't get nejbiffer to work, but rest installed ok)
3)SOS1.1 weidu/TDD1.1 weidu
4)TS-BP weidu 6.04.02
5)skipped (BGT not installed)
6)other weidu mods...
1a)Deeper Shadows of Amn 2.2 (without gnome, crypt king, kanjaxx- bp has already)
2a)Selune armory
3a)Banter Pack v6
4a)Hellion kit v3
5a)COM encounters v101
6a)Beyond the Law
7a)Unfinished Business v15
8a)Npc Flirt v101
9a)Dingo Quest pack v23 (actually put after BP, at 24a)
10a)Kelsey v21
11a)Kelsey Tob v22
12a)Keto v2
13a)Tashia v205g
14a)Solafein v106
15a)Item upgrade v32
16a)Underrepr Items v5
17a)Cespy audio v1
18a)Tactics v23 partial (only improved sahuagin, anti paladin kit, north forest, Imp druid grove, Imp fire giants)
19a)FR-ROV v3
20a)Planar Sphere v2.2
21a)Munchmod v2.6 (man am I tired of typing this)
22a)BP v176 beta
23a)Ease of use v32 partial (minus what seanas/salk told not to install)
24a)DO Quest pack v23
25a)BGT 4wmv6 (worldmap v5? according to seanas directions)
=trouble. Where did I go wrong?
I could be wrong it has been known and i do have a very bad hangover which is affecting my ability to think straight, but the Ilyich rat thing is a BP component and if you install NEJ you have a problem in getting the acorns and mail because he runs onto the second dungeon level which you can't access until you return from NEJ land. Obviously, your NEJ is bad looking at your log and post. your biffer not working is curious. the biffer is run before NEJ which when its finished biffing then ask you if you want to install. did you do it in the correct order its not in the read me. anyway hope this helps. B)
#12
Posted 16 June 2006 - 09:20 AM
nej_setups.rar 62.59K 166 downloads I hope that worked. When I tried to put the regular files as attachement it said the files were too big. I don't know much about the debug, but when I checked it looks like install, uninstall, delete, roll back to previous install etc. all over the place.
As far as the biffer goes, I think I tried to run it first but it would open in that black weidu window, then blink and close. Then I installed nej2 + patch then biffer but it didn't seem like biffer did anything. (The same thing happened with g3 tweaks - opened, said error, and closed. Downloaded 3 times too, to be sure)
#13
Posted 17 June 2006 - 04:33 AM
thanks for posting the debug files. the bad news is: yr install is stuffed. delete the whole lot and start again. the reason yr getting the errors in NEJ - silent NPCs etc - is because the first part of NEJ2 didnt install:Thanks for the replies. Well, first the files:
nej_setups.rar 62.59K 166 downloads I hope that worked. When I tried to put the regular files as attachement it said the files were too big. I don't know much about the debug, but when I checked it looks like install, uninstall, delete, roll back to previous install etc. all over the place.
As far as the biffer goes, I think I tried to run it first but it would open in that black weidu window, then blink and close. Then I installed nej2 + patch then biffer but it didn't seem like biffer did anything. (The same thing happened with g3 tweaks - opened, said error, and closed. Downloaded 3 times too, to be sure)
SETUP-BD-TOB.TP2 0 0 Installed SETUP-BD-TOB.TP2 0 1 Installed SETUP-NEJ2.TP2 0 1 Permanently_Uninstalled SETUP-NEJ2.TP2 0 2 Permanently_Uninstalled SETUP-NEJ2.TP2 0 3 Permanently_Uninstalled SETUP-NEJ2.TP2 0 4 Permanently_Uninstalled SETUP-NEJ2.TP2 0 5 Permanently_Uninstalled SETUP-NEJ2.TP2 0 6 Permanently_Uninstalled SETUP-NEJ2.TP2 0 8 Temporarily_Uninstalled SETUP-NEJ2.TP2 0 9 Temporarily_Uninstalled SETUP-NEJ2.TP2 0 10 Temporarily_Uninstalled SETUP-NEJ2.TP2 0 0 Temporarily_Uninstalled ~Never Ending Journey v4.2 - Part 1~ SETUP-NEJ2.TP2 0 1 Installed ~Continuous and Custom Kit Imoen~ SETUP-NEJ2.TP2 0 2 Installed ~Priest of Sylvanus (Druid) Kit and Improved Character Jaheira.~ SETUP-NEJ2.TP2 0 3 Installed ~Boo - Minsc?s Familiar~ SETUP-NEJ2.TP2 0 4 Installed ~Improved Nymph (Woodland Being) Script by Goeran Rimen~ SETUP-NEJ2.TP2 0 5 Installed ~Restored Twisted Rune Quest~ SETUP-NEJ2.TP2 0 6 Installed ~Dual Wielding Fix for Rogues by aVENGER~ ERROR: Failure("resource [SIMEJ.DLG] not found for 'APPEND'") PLEASE email the file SETUP-NEJ2.DEBUG to Vlad & Larriennethe first part didnt install cos it's choking on SIMEJ.DLG - and the reason why it's choking on SIMEJ.DLG is that you didnt edit the Setup-NEJ2.tp2 before running it (or didnt edit it correctly, which amounts to the same thing).
and yes, it's pretty crap that you have to manually edit .tp2 files to get this thing working, but the original mod authors want their work distributed in specific forms - as is their right - so you the user have to edit them yrself to make them work the way you want.
there are a couple of threads here and here describing the SIMEJ.DLG problem, and the solution - which is also posted in the installation sticky - is posted here. the reason why the biffer wasn't working was that you were not running it properly: you run it instead of Seteup-NEJ2.exe, not after it. again, apologies if the instructions were not clear.
so, to fix: delete yr current install completely. sorry about that. then, follow these instructions:
at this point, you've got NEJ2 fully installed on a complete BGII install with BD-weidu. you can then go and install TDD, SOS, CtB< BGT, and/or whatever other mods you choose, and then BP-weidu, in the order suggested by the install sticky. by the way, the step-by-step instuctions i posted are from erebusant's excellent step-by-step mega-install instructions1. Complete a full SoA installation.
2. Complete a full ToB installation.
3. Patch installation with the official Bioware 26498 Patch.
4. Copy NEJ2 Biffer_v3.rar, NEJ2v42B.exe, and NEJ2v602.exe to your BGII ? SoA directory.
5. ?Extract here? the NEJ2 Biffer_v3.rar in your BGII directory, then delete the .rar archive.
6. Run the NEJ2v42B.exe application, then click ?accept?, and then ?install? to your C:\Program Files\Black Isle\BGII ? SoA directory. This will extract the NEJ2 files, and prepare you for the NEJ2 portion of the installation. Click ?no? on the prompt of over-write tisunpack.exe.
7. Delete NEJ2v42B.exe from your main SoA directory.
8. Open the Setup-NEJ2.tp2 file with WordPad, and delete all of the ?Required File? lines at the beginning of the .tp2 file:REQUIRE_FILE ~Data/25Dialog.bif~ ~Please install "Throne Of Bhaal" and the official ToB patch before installation of this mod.~ REQUIRE_FILE ~override/Animate.ids~ ~Please install the official ToB patch before installation of this mod.~ REQUIRE_FILE ~override/MusicList.ids~ ~Please install the official ToB patch before installation of this mod.~ REQUIRE_FILE ~override/CLASS.ids~ ~Please install the official ToB patch before installation of this mod.~ REQUIRE_FILE ~override/AreaType.ids~ ~Please install the official ToB patch before installation of this mod.~ REQUIRE_FILE ~override/Spell.ids~ ~Please install the Baldurdash fixpack before installation of this mod.~Close and save the Setup-NEJ2.tp2 file. Do not run Setup-NEJ2.exe
9. Double-click ?Setup-NEJ2Biffer.exe?.
10. Type in ?i? for install and press ?enter?.
11. Press ?enter? again to complete the NEJ2 Biffer install, then type in ?i? again and ?enter? to install all the components of NEJ2.
12. Press ?enter? at the end to unpack all of the .tis files and the .ogg files, and to ?biff up? everything.
13. Run the NEJ2v602 application, then click ?accept?, and then install to your C?\Program Files\Black Isle\BGII ? SoA directory. This will extract the NEJ2 patch files and prepare you for the patching portion of the program. The ?Setup ? NEJ2v602.exe? file will update automatically to WeiDU version 191.
14. Delete NEJ2v602.exe from your SoA directory.
15. Double-click ?Setup ? NEJ2v602.exe?.
16. Type in ?i? for install and press ?enter?. Press ?i? again to install Imoen Portrait, and ?i? again to install the Tortured Souls Compatibility patch. Press ?n? to skip re-installing the ?No-CD crack?.
17. Press ?enter? to exit the NEJ2v602 patch installation.
"A simple test of the relative merits of science and religion is to compare lighting your house at night by prayer or electricity" - A. C. Grayling
"EFF files have saves, too." - CamDawg
|| this is radio seanas || BP Series v3 || seanas at work ||
#14 -Guest-
Posted 17 June 2006 - 09:38 PM
Thanks Big S,
I followed the edited instructions from above post, but realized I didn't install BD weidu 1.5 until after Nej install. Though you didn't mention it, I tried and it wouldn't work. So I continued with the rest of the install as before (5+hours and not finished with bp install yet!).
Is BD weidu included in the biffer or nej?
So, A)did I mess up again
B)if so, do I need BD weidu 1.5 (and can I lump it at the end)
Part of Bd weidu setup: where it started to go badly
ERROR: [SPCL221.SPL] -> [override] Patching Failed (COPY) (Failure("SPCL221.SPL: write out of bounds"))
Stopping installation because of error.
#15
Posted 17 June 2006 - 10:59 PM
#16
Posted 19 June 2006 - 03:43 AM
Yes you need BD weidu 1.5 as NEJ needs it to work properly.
It seems that despite an install guide the majority of posts seem to be around installs.
I've got a couple of weeks spare the inclination and the illegal copy of adobe distiller to do a yaz style makeover to the seanas install guide for all the folks out there who are not familiar with weidu this and biff that.
Please let me know if you think it?s necessary to tap out more detailed guide, with maybe a couple of screen shots.
#17
Posted 19 June 2006 - 05:06 AM
#18
Posted 19 June 2006 - 08:48 AM
#19
Posted 19 June 2006 - 11:50 AM
By the way on previous install without bd weidu, nej still worked. But I didn't play farther along - just enough to see dialogues worked.
Only problems on install were DO quest pack- "can't install creature/area improvements"
and couldn't install G3 tweaks- weidu opens and says "bad command or filename"
Other than that directions were pretty clear after seanas post, and install seemed ok. Is there a way around this?
#20
Posted 19 June 2006 - 11:51 AM
Edited by maximus2001, 19 June 2006 - 11:09 PM.