7 replies to this topic

[Vlad]

Please remove the following block from BGT\Compat\BGT\Replace\xAR0602.BAF:

IF
Global("IHaveBalduran","GLOBAL",1)
THEN
RESPONSE #100
SetGlobal("IHaveBalduran","GLOBAL",2)
ActionOverride("Shelf1",CreateItem("HELM07",0,0,0)) // Helm of Balduran
Continue()
END

This way you create a copy of the Helm of Balduran, which already exists there in the original game.

[Ascension64]

Please remove the following block from BGT\Compat\BGT\Replace\xAR0602.BAF:

IF
Global("IHaveBalduran","GLOBAL",1)
THEN
RESPONSE #100
SetGlobal("IHaveBalduran","GLOBAL",2)
ActionOverride("Shelf1",CreateItem("HELM07",0,0,0)) // Helm of Balduran
Continue()
END

This way you create a copy of the Helm of Balduran, which already exists there in the original game.

Exactly where and when does the second copy appear?

[seanas]

Exactly where and when does the second copy appear?

both helms of balduran are in the same place: but instead of one, you get two.

[edit] the same place being shelf 1 in AR0602. is it because both balduran's cloak and balduran's helm both use the same variable (IHaveBalduran) when checking whether to transfer items into BG2?

or, more to the point, in the block in AR0602.bcs beginning
Global("TakeImportItems","AR0602",0) (the one that ends with StartCutScene("NewGame") )
there's an action:
ActionOverride("Shelf1",TakeItemListPartyNum("IMPORT03",1)
the first item on IMPORT03.2da is.... HELM07

so two different checks for baldurans helm = two helms of balduran

Edited by seanas, 14 September 2006 - 08:01 AM.

[Ascension64]

The only reason why you would see this occurring is that TakeItemPartyListNum doesn't care whether the party has an item or not specified in the relevant .2DA, creating an instance of that item regardless. Someone else reported the Chainmail+3 being duplicated as well, which appears in IMPORT01.2DA, while Helm of Baludran appears in IMPORT03.2DA.

Can someone clarify?

[WizWom]

Straight/clean install of SoA/ToB does not have Helm of Balduran check; they are done with TakeItemListPartyNum in a single startup block.

IIRC, it's in there because TakeItemList is flaky. err, let me test it... Hrm, no, that handles it all fine.

So, yeah, the coding to handle Balduran stuff special is probably extranneous.

[Ascension64]

OK, I just tested TakeItemPartyListNum(), and it seems that it doesn't care whether the player has the items or not. That solves the issue, although it is very stupid to TakeItemParty things that the party doesn't have...

[CamDawg]

The idea behind the import lists is to always have an item on that shelf and on Ilyich. It uses the lists because it makes for a better transition if the item is actually possessed by the party. If nothing matches, it simplies creates the first item in the list--which is why everyone thinks that shelf only has the Helm of Balduran. Very rare is the imported character from BG, much less one without the best helmet in the game.

[Ascension64]

I see, something for igi to include as a post-text to the associated action then I suppose.

EDIT: Wait! Hold on one second. Two Helms of Balduran and two Chainmail+3 are appearing BECAUSE of:

2DA V1.0
HELM07 <------------------ this thing!
ITEMS
1 HELM07
2 MISC72
3 MISC73
4 RING25

Edited by Ascension64, 14 September 2006 - 08:55 PM.