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#1 -Al-

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 03:28 PM

Dunno if this has been asked before, but just wondered what you guys thought were the best kits in the game. I basically can't go without these four:

1. Swashbuckler: practically a perfect union between the fighter and thief, being able to place 2 slots to any thief's weapon plus three to two-weapon fighting, and the bonus +1 to damage, THAC0 and AC every 5 levels, which could get to a total +8 once you reach the 40th level, plus the bonuses already given by strength/dexterity and items. And the catch? No backstab multiplier. Pffft. Nothing you can't live without, especially when compared to the -10 points to thieving skills applied to the other thief kits.

2. Kensai: while this kit may not use armour, it's a freaking killing machine. +1 to hit and damage every 3 levels, reaching a total +13 by the 39th level, and the practically non-existent speed factor. Give him/her something like the Crom Faer, and that alone guarantees +20 to hit and 27 to damage only through the addition of strength and kit bonuses, that is not counting the bonus given by the grand mastery the fighter may achieve or the items or weapon.

3. Paladin: Who would ever give a ranged weapon to a paladin when he/she has the Carsomyr? The bonus resistance and abilities, while nothing insolite, really come in handy on more than one tight situation. It's also the kit I use the most for my main character, right with the...

4. Sorcerer: I guess it's really useful to be able to throw 4 Dragonbreaths when you need to. The only disadvantage (besides the weakneses already shown by wizards) is that you don't have such a wide array of spells, even if you have total control on how to use your limited spellbook. And then you equip this character with the Robe Of Vecna...

So, any other faves, any comments?

#2 Vicen

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 04:39 PM

If you can live without using magical stuff besides Armor Wizard Slayer is a good kit too

Also the Archer can be very nasty as well

And Undead Hunter is great for killing vamps and other undead as you are immune to just about everything they throw at you

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#3 Shadowhawke

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 05:13 PM

I'll echo Al on this one with regards to the Kensai ^_^. That has always been, bar none, my absolute favourite class... although having a look at your points on the Swashbuckler, I might go and try that one too.

This is also trifle cheap, but I do like the Blade. Not quite the Fighter/Mage power combo, but still very fun in terms of gameplay, especially when you hit the higher levels. I would say then that it almost equals if not outclasses the Fighter/Mage combo when you consider all the lovely little HLAs such as Spike and Time Trap :D.

Edit: Having played with Keldorn in my party briefly, I'd also like to throw in a good word about the Inquisitor, although I haven't actually played with an Inquisitor as my PC yet (something I plan to rectify). The Dispel Magic is incredible, and the True Sight is very handy, and hey... Carsomyr...

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#4 Zyraen

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 05:41 PM

I adore Sorcerers whenever they're not my PC.

Personally, I think Inquisitor beats Paladin in general.
Just my view - I haven't yet found Undead Hunter capable of anything a Paladin with the right spell / equipment can't do.
Similarly, I think with the right equipment and spells anyone can replicate the Magic Resistance of a Wizard Slayer.

I also like Kensai / Mage combinations, though pure Kensai isn't quite on my radar just yet. Just like the Archer, beyond a certain point in the game (about level 13-14) they're just numbers. You still hit everything you should hit, except for Critical Misses.

I really ought to try out Blade or Swashbuckler sometime.
BUT that being said, with Hidden Kits I'd probably go for Spell Steel (FM) or Shadow Blade (FT) :) much better.
And if you add Options to reduce the XP Penalty... :devil:

Edit : I forgot my all time favourite - REAVER (Mage dualled to Thief with Fighter Thac0, insane Stats, Druid and Cleric spells) ! Yeah I know its cheating...

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#5 princesspurpleblob

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 07:59 PM

I like following:

Fighter/Mage: Combination of these two classes can make PC really strong if skills are used appropriately
Cleric: Seriously, even when everyone's dead, as long as Bhaalspawn is alive and he/she is cleric, than everyone can be resurrected!
Sorcerer: So powerful especially towards the end of the game
Assassin: Backstabbing x7!
Kensai: Do we need sarevok?

#6 Scipio

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Posted 05 June 2008 - 01:14 AM

Berserker is my favourite class. A full-on Beserker is invaluable to me because the Enrage ability confers immunity to level draining, stun, maze and imprisonment, and the extra killing power is nice too. At higher levels you can go to Enrage in just about every battle. A Beserker dualled to mage, thief or cleric, depending on your party's make-up, can dual at the very start of the game and trot around with two Enrages per day and five slots in the weapon of your choice.

If I'm not playing as a fighter-type I use Shadow Keeper to rurn Minsc into a Beserker.

I haven't ever tried Kensai or Kensai-Mage. But as I've said elsewhere, we need a mod kit for a Berserker-Sorcerer!
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#7 Azazello

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Posted 05 June 2008 - 11:26 AM

If I'm not playing as a fighter-type I use Shadow Keeper to rurn Minsc into a Beserker.

You needn't do that anymore.

I haven't ever tried Kensai or Kensai-Mage. But as I've said elsewhere, we need a mod kit for a Berserker-Sorcerer!

Gods help us if that ever occurs. 3e ruleset, anyone? :blink:

#8 -Al-

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Posted 05 June 2008 - 02:38 PM

Ooooops! I guess one of the negative factors of not having an actual account is that you can't really edit your posts. Well, anyways, I didn't mean the Paladin, I meant the Cavalier (they can't use ranged weapons). Sorry for the confusion!

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#9 Klorox

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Posted 10 June 2008 - 04:00 AM

Sorcerers can DOMINATE this game, and Berserkers are the best kit IMHO.
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