Nathaniel is supposed to respond to attempts at conversation with "Look - um - I don't think it's a good time at the moment", as long as you are in the underdark (and under certain other conditions). This isn't a bug; it's Top Level#526 in the FHNATJ.dlg file, and is triggered by (among other things) an area check sequence that includes all areas of the underdark. The stuttering occurs only if you talk your way out of sex with Phaere (which you can do without her turning hostile only if your character has CHR13 and INT 16 or better). After Phaere leaves, Nathaniel then loops into dialog mode repeatedly because of a bug in the trigger conditions for Top Level#71 in FHNATJ.dlg; this is what causes his avatar to turn towards your character and freeze, while repeating Top Level#526 each time he does this (you can actually save the game, or take/put items in containers between loops if you are quick enough).
You can correct this bug by editing the FHNATJ.dlg file; go to Top Level#71 ("Oh, thank goodness...") and select the conditions (triggers) for this with your editor, then delete the line that reads: AreaCheck("AR2204"). Save the edited FHNATJ.dlg to your override folder, and the game should now run without the stutter bug. Nathaniel will run Top Level#71 only after you enter the Temple of Lolth (after you fend off Phaere's attempted seduction).
You can avoid the stutter bug entirely if you repeatedly and forcefully rebuff Phaere (or fail at talking your way out of sex because your CHR and INT stats are too low); this will turn her and all inhabitants of Ust Natha (including slaves and ambassadors) hostile immediately, and Nathaniel won't comment at all on what has happened (very gallant of him when you just risked your life [and his] to stay faithful to him!) You can still rescue Adalon's eggs at this point because you won't need the treasury key that Phaere hasn't given you to open the door of to the Despana treasury, but you will have to fight all of the Drow that see you inside (not just the treasury guards) to get them.
If you have sex with Phaere, Nathaniel won't stutter; Top Level#72 ("I saw what happened...") will run correctly, but because of an action bug, he won't leave you at this point; instead, your romance will set to 3 (end), and he won't even respond with Top Level#526 to your attempts at conversation.
Nathaniel v.42 stutter bug solutions and related issues
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, Oct 25 2008 10:00 PM
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Posted 15 December 2008 - 08:12 AM
For those who don't know how to edit dialogue (like me), I did some research. The file FHNATJ.dlg is already in your override folder, and can be edited with near infinity: http://www.idi.ntnu....i/download.html
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Posted 07 July 2011 - 01:58 PM
Since this issue has recently popped up in the forum, I thought I'd give a bump to this very helpful thread 
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Posted 31 July 2011 - 06:08 AM
Hi, just came across this and I have a few questions!
I've just reached the Underdark bit, about to enter Ust Natha, and my PC is in a romance with Nathaniel.
I'm hoping to talk my way out of sleeping with Phaere haha, so I was just wondering... when am I supposed to edit the file? Before I get to that point?
Also... where exactly is the file? It isn't in my override folder...
Thanks for any help hah.
I've just reached the Underdark bit, about to enter Ust Natha, and my PC is in a romance with Nathaniel.
I'm hoping to talk my way out of sleeping with Phaere haha, so I was just wondering... when am I supposed to edit the file? Before I get to that point?
Also... where exactly is the file? It isn't in my override folder...
Thanks for any help hah.
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Posted 05 September 2011 - 03:51 PM
Hey folks.
Having a problem here myself. Think it may be related to this...
Was in the Underdark, got this problem so I used the above solution to fix it; and since then Nathaniel hasnt spoken to me at all. Any time I try to speak to him it says "Nathaniel - Has nothing to say to you."
Didnt think it was a problem until I got to Bohdi in the Graveyard District and she didnt kidnap him.
He turned Cyan at the beginning of her talk but then reverted to green and wasnt taken away.
I am confused and annoyed...
Any ideas whats up here?
Having a problem here myself. Think it may be related to this...
Was in the Underdark, got this problem so I used the above solution to fix it; and since then Nathaniel hasnt spoken to me at all. Any time I try to speak to him it says "Nathaniel - Has nothing to say to you."
Didnt think it was a problem until I got to Bohdi in the Graveyard District and she didnt kidnap him.
He turned Cyan at the beginning of her talk but then reverted to green and wasnt taken away.
I am confused and annoyed...
Any ideas whats up here?
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Posted 05 September 2011 - 04:05 PM
Sorry about the double post but I double checked the variables in ShadowKeeper and the romance variable for Nathaniel is at 3... Which I presume means broken romance?
I dont see how cos everything went fine apart from the his stuttering bug and me making the above edit to fix it.
Im confused.
Anyway I changed it to 2 (its supposed to be at 2 I presume?) and went to the graveyard and Bohdi has taken him now.
But Im just plain stumped as to why this happened...
I dont see how cos everything went fine apart from the his stuttering bug and me making the above edit to fix it.
Im confused.
Anyway I changed it to 2 (its supposed to be at 2 I presume?) and went to the graveyard and Bohdi has taken him now.
But Im just plain stumped as to why this happened...
