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#1 agnar

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 03:13 PM

I believe I have the latest version as i only just downloaded this mod a couple weeks ago. I played through and all went smoothly until going to meet Seida, except I never got the bribing Corneil for more time option. Not sure how that's supposed to come about. I got all the evidence, turned it over to Myroven, got Kiyones bit about being good to leave for Brynnlaw. Left, fought Kharen, ducked the shadow thieves, went to shark city, underdark, out. Got Myroven's bit about free reign after returning from the underdark, but no real harm there it seemed.

Played through the rest, though i think i sidestepped a bit by going to see Ardelion directlyn (i guess Renal or Aran or someone was supposed to clue me to go see him? I never got a mention of him directly.) Also, i never got Kova's susggestion to go talk to Edwin, though Ardelion did hint about it. i waited a good long time, but kova never spoke up. So i just popped over to the CC and offed Edwin, just in case. Edwin gave only the normal dialogue options and was never in my group. Maybe he needs to be in the party for a time for any of that to occur?

Okay, so, myroven and the witnesses lived, i took them in, etc. i did have to moved my party to the area 402 or whatever, kill the trolls and bandits, then come back to aran, before he could successfully tranfer us to meet Sieda. Otherwise it crashed with the error referenced in other threads.

Now to my big "uh-oh" moment. I had the trial, Bylanna said not guilty, pardoned Kova. I left the building, then realized i couldn't find Dayven anywhere to do the cowled wizard bit, so i went back into the bulding hoping he was in there or brega could point me to him (though i did tattle to brega on him so he might be gone for good in that instance.)

So anyway, when i go back inside, it's all reset like the trial never happened, like i've turned in only the earliest evidence, no witness recanting... Brega, Bylanna and Corneil all act like it's back in a much earlier stage. Bylanna even saying we shouldn't go to trial yet because we don't have enough evidence, Brega saying we can't see the witness because we hang with the bad Kova...

Am I screwed for the endgame, marriage, etc. or will that not effect the marriage part? They were into the 2nd stage before we left for Brynnlaw. But i just don't know why everyone in the council building reset like that after i left. i can provide further specific info on variables and so on if you need, but i'm not sure exactly which info would prove helpful, or if this is just not something to worry about.

#2 agnar

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 06:59 PM

Okay, ran into another issue at the end game. So, kova proposes, kiyone accepts. we knock off Irenicus, then pop back into the elf city. But the problem occurs and it's nearly game killing. kiyone appears near the fountain with the 2 elves. It takes like, 5 minutes at least with the screen flashing thing (black to her on the ground, black, her on the ground...) then she stands up, her and the elves talk about her drinking the waters, she asks for kova, goes to look for him, then falls down.

And she NEVER gets back up. The rest of the party is in the same room, but in the normal AR code, while she is stuck in the newly made one Z#2803 i think it is. The only way i could get the game to continue is to kick her out of the party. Then suddenly the finale speech happens even though the room is empty except for elliseme, the 5 party members and i think 2 other elves.

i have no idea what the hold up was or if there's a manual trigger i can clua into action.

#3 Zyraen

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 11:25 PM

Sorry about the Bugs in existence, I hope you still had fun overall ^^;; mucho apologies.

About the starting over, I have to admit that I never once thought of removing the options for Brega Bylanna, altering the dialogue etc once the trial was completed, so that is my bad, I will have to amend that completely. It should not be difficult to fix that up.

Dayven will not be around to do the Cowlie bit if you tattled on him earlier. Telling Brega about him will remove Dayven from the game forever - making it impossible to do part 7. So that isn't a bug.

Kova will never suggest you bribe Edwin if Edwin is not in your group. Still killing him is a good move. Heh I do that all the time. So no bug there either.

None of these 3 issues will affect the marriage in anyway.

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Now, the post proposal bug. For the life of me I honestly believe that most of the bugs in BTL that I still find largely unsolvable are somewhat related to the ARE errors, because I created separate AREs for the post-proposal and wedding scenes. I will do my best to get on the back and I'm very sorry but it looks like you just have to try a few reloads, maybe with the help of Ctrl-Y and/or the Uberweapon (Z#DIE from my Misc pack).

Other than that, I hope you enjoyed the Mod so far. Hopefully I'll be able to do one more release to settle most of the matters, now that I have quit WoW and probably will have more time to settle down once my business is worked out.

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#4 agnar

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 11:22 PM

Sorry about the Bugs in existence, I hope you still had fun overall ^^;; mucho apologies.

About the starting over, I have to admit that I never once thought of removing the options for Brega Bylanna, altering the dialogue etc once the trial was completed, so that is my bad, I will have to amend that completely. It should not be difficult to fix that up.

Dayven will not be around to do the Cowlie bit if you tattled on him earlier. Telling Brega about him will remove Dayven from the game forever - making it impossible to do part 7. So that isn't a bug.

Kova will never suggest you bribe Edwin if Edwin is not in your group. Still killing him is a good move. Heh I do that all the time. So no bug there either.

None of these 3 issues will affect the marriage in anyway.

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Now, the post proposal bug. For the life of me I honestly believe that most of the bugs in BTL that I still find largely unsolvable are somewhat related to the ARE errors, because I created separate AREs for the post-proposal and wedding scenes. I will do my best to get on the back and I'm very sorry but it looks like you just have to try a few reloads, maybe with the help of Ctrl-Y and/or the Uberweapon (Z#DIE from my Misc pack).

Other than that, I hope you enjoyed the Mod so far. Hopefully I'll be able to do one more release to settle most of the matters, now that I have quit WoW and probably will have more time to settle down once my business is worked out.


Thanks for the response, i got your email, but i dont actually use msn, don't even have it installed.

Thanks for answering the earlier questions, i figured that might be the anwers for the dayven and edwin bits. Oh, i cheated a bit on the witness quest, once i knew where it would occur, i summoned a few critters that last a long time, like fire elementals before rescuing the girl, in the spot it occurs. Then i had them hang out in back of the witness/escort and most of my party hang out around the witness. Then just moved my toughest fighter forward to trigger the attack. It ended up being fairly easy then, my fighter whipped on the outrider attackers in front, the elementals took out the outer attackers in back and the rest of my party took out the close in attackers.

i kept the save game, but i must admit i gave up trying for the wedding after 3 or 4 goes. killing irenicus in hell wasn't hard, but it was frustrating to go through it all multiple times with the same result. If you find the time to do a new release though i'll play it again straight through. i'll keep dayven around this time and try it with edwin in the group. This time through i played with a group edwin just didn't fit in with at all. next time i'll go with a good edging toward neutral group so a scumbag like edwin wouldn't be so out of place. *grin*

Oh, great work on the portraits, Kiyone and Myroven especially. :)