Jump to content


De'Arnise Hold problem : no troll

Started by -Fouinto- , May 16 2009 11:32 PM

  • Please log in to reply
11 replies to this topic

#1 -Fouinto-

-Fouinto-
  • Guest

Posted 16 May 2009 - 11:32 PM

Hi,

I encounter a strange problem when going to De'Arnise Hold.

When enterring the area, the map becomes revealed. When walking by in order to kill few trolls before speaking to Nalia, there is no troll outside.
When speaking to Nalia, she tells me about trolls as usual... However, the guard usually by her side is not here (the guard that give you few fire arrows and that ask you to open the main bridge). By the way, the bridge is already opened...
Last but not least, when I enter the keep (that is also automaticaly revealed), I found no troll on the first floor. However, there are few servants, and much more : Lady Delcia and Majordomo are also in the main room. Even chests are already empty.

In fact, the keep is in the same condition as when the quest will be finished.

Well, It seems to me that a small bug (considering I finished the quest before having started it) causes all this strange behavior.

Any help allowing me to start "normally" this quest would be greatly appreciated.

Note : I did use "BiG_World_Fixpack_v7"

// Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods
// The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod
// ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number // [Subcomponent Name -> ] Component Name [ : Version]
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #4 #0 // BG2 Fixpack - Correctifs principaux: v8
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #4 #3 // Correctifs en version BETA (consultez le ReadMe !): v8
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #4 #100 // Gain d'experience si on envoie Keldorn se reconcilier avec Maria: v8
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #4 #101 // Animations des sorts amelioree: v8
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #4 #102 // Forger un objet par Cromwell prend reellement un jour: v8
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #4 #104 // Correction des symboles divin (par Ghreyfain): v8
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #4 #106 // Penalite d'attaque des Geants contre les Petites-personnes, les Nains et les Gnomes: v8
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #4 #107 // Retire la restriction de jumelage des Archers et des Traqueurs: v8
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #4 #108 // Retire le deuxieme attribut bonus pour le chemin Mauvais a l'epreuve de la Colere en Enfer: v8
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #4 #109 // Correction du comportement des demons convoques: v8
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #4 #110 // Correctifs additionnels pour les scripts: v8
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #4 #111 // Correction de la chanson du barde: v8
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #4 #112 // Les tueurs de magiciens provoquent un fourvoiement magique sur les attaques a distance: v8
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #4 #113 // Correctifs additionnels pour les alignements: v8
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #4 #114 // "Action libre" protege aussi contre l'etourdissement: v8
~SETUP-ROT.TP2~ #0 #0 // Region Of Terror, v2.1
~SETUP-BGT.TP2~ #3 #0 // Baldur's Gate Trilogy - Composant principal: 1.07
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #2 #0 // Mod Big Picture d Amelioration de l IA, version 177 weidu (beta): BWP v6 Fix
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #2 #1 // Amelioration de Suldanessalar: BWP v6 Fix
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #2 #3 // Ajout de la Baguette d Orcus: BWP v6 Fix
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #2 #4 // Amelioration de la Passe du Petit Croc, par Kensai Ryu: BWP v6 Fix
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #2 #6 // Amelioration du Roi de la crypte, par Kensai Ryu: BWP v6 Fix
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #2 #7 // Le Gnome Guerrier/Illusioniste des Quais, de Kensai Ryu: BWP v6 Fix
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #2 #8 // Amelioration des Rencontres Aleatoires, par Gebhard Blucher et Kensai Ryu: BWP v6 Fix
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #2 #9 // La Liche sur les Quais, de Gebhard Blucher: BWP v6 Fix
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #2 #10 // L'insigne rouge, une Rencontre Basee sur le Poison, par Westley Weimer: BWP v6 Fix
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #2 #11 // Kuroisan le kensai acide, par Westley Weimer: BWP v6 Fix
~SETUP-BPV177.TP2~ #2 #13 // Amelioration du Village Xvart, pour BGT-weidu: BWP v6 Fix
~SETUP-BPV177-TOBFIX.TP2~ #0 #0 // BPv177 TOB Trigger Fix
~SETUP-BGTTWEAK.TP2~ #2 #100 // Eldoth rappelle d'aller recuperer la rancon de Skie: 8
~SETUP-BGTTWEAK.TP2~ #2 #400 // Sarevok et Semaj plus puissants: 8
~SETUP-BGTTWEAK.TP2~ #2 #701 // Patch du bonheur -> Les PNJs ne peuvent pas choisir de quitter le groupe: 8
~SETUP-BGTTWEAK.TP2~ #2 #800 // Importer davantage d'objets dans Shadows of Amn (ATTENTION: Ceci est de la triche): 8
~SETUP-BGTTWEAK.TP2~ #2 #901 // Pieges aleatoires dans la caverne des pirates -> Attribution faite pendant l'installation: 8
~SETUP-BGTTWEAK.TP2~ #2 #1000 // Sacs sur la Cote des Epees: 8
~SETUP-BGTTWEAK.TP2~ #2 #1101 // Modifier la creation d'ennemis aleatoires -> Creer des ennemis aleatoires en fonction du niveau (style Tutu): 8
~SETUP-BGTTWEAK.TP2~ #2 #1300 // Coran reagit a la mort d'une wyverne: 8
~SETUP-BGTTWEAK.TP2~ #2 #1400 // Davantage de scalps de bandits: 8
~SETUP-BGTTWEAK.TP2~ #2 #1700 // Corrections P&P de Salk: 8
~SETUP-BGTTWEAK.TP2~ #2 #2100 // Armes exotiques pour Taerom: 8
~SETUP-BGTTWEAK.TP2~ #2 #2300 // Desactiver la reaction hostile apres un charme: 8
~SETUP-BGTTWEAK.TP2~ #2 #2600 // Empecher l'acces a la Tour de Durlag par les zones adjacentes: 8
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #130 // Mode pause dans tous les dialogues: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #1010 // Davantage d'interjections: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #1020 // Modifier la valeur limite des points de vie pour les dialogues des PNJs blesses: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #1030 // Reveler les zones vierges avant le chapitre 6: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #1070 // Amelioration du dialogue d'ejection pour les PNJs multijoueurs: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #1080 // Ajouter des sacs de contenance: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #1090 // Pack d'objets exotiques: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #1120 // Plus de munitions dans les boutiques: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #1130 // Reinitialisation de la reputation dans BG2 (BGT uniquement): v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #1150 // Reequilibrage du metamorphe: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #1160 // Forteresses pour toutes les classes -> Pas de restrictions (Baldurdash): v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #1220 // Permettre a Cromwell d'ameliorer les objets de la Tour de Garde: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #2040 // Gourdins universels: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #2060 // Styles de combat pour toutes les classes: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #2090 // Changer la limite de points d'experience -> Retirer la limite: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #2140 // Options de jumelage etendues: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #2151 // Port de plusieurs objets de protection -> Pas de restrictions: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #2200 // Grande maitrise pour les multi-classes (Weimer): v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #2210 // Veritable grande maitrise (Baldurdash): v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #2300 // Tables de capacites de haut niveau pour les triclasses: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #2320 // Suppression de la limite du nombre de pieges (Ardanis/GeN1e): v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #2330 // Suppression du delai pour les pieges magiques (Ardanis/GeN1e): v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #3000 // Plus de points de vie a la montee de niveau -> Maximum: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #3031 // Apprentissage des sorts assoupli -> 100% de chance d'apprendre un sort et nombre de sorts illimite: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #3040 // Sacs de contenance sans fond: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #3080 // Empilement illimite des munitions: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #3090 // Empilement illimite des gemmes et des bijoux: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #3100 // Empilement illimite des potions: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #3110 // Empilement illimite des parchemins: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #3121 // Patch du bonheur (les PNJs du groupe ne se battent pas et ne se plaignent pas de la reputation) -> Les PNJs peuvent etre en colere a propos de la reputation mais ne quittent jamais (Salk): v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #3125 // Rendre heureux les personnages neutres lorsque la reputation est moyenne: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #3150 // Desactiver l'animation hideuse de la Cape de Renvoi, du Piege a sort et du Miroir physique: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #3170 // Pas d'avatar Elfe Noir sur le groupe en Ombre-Terre: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #3190 // Repos possible partout (Japheth): v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #3200 // Batons, gourdins et frondes vendables (Icelus): v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #4031 // Caracteristiques coherentes : Edwin -> Valeurs de BG2: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #4041 // Caracteristiques coherentes : Jaheira -> Valeurs de BG2: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #4050 // Changer l'alignement de Jaheira en "Neutre Bon": v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #4061 // Caracteristiques coherentes : Minsc -> Valeurs de BG2: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #4071 // Caracteristiques coherentes : Viconia -> Valeurs de BG2: v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #4090 // Transformer Montaron en Assassin (Andyr): v7 BWP fix
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #2 #4110 // Donner à Kagain 19 de constitution: v7 BWP fix
~SETUP-BP-BGT-WORLDMAP.TP2~ #0 #0 // Worldmap for Baldur's Gate v7.1 - including colored Baldur's Gate map icons -> New Worldmap for use with Mega Modification...: v7.1
~SETUP-BP-BGT-WORLDMAP.TP2~ #0 #3 // Worldmap for Throne of Bhall -> Clothmap style map for Throne of Bhaal: v7.1
~SETUP-BP-BGT-WORLDMAP.TP2~ #0 #5 // Flag: v7.1
~WIDESCREEN/WIDESCREEN.TP2~ #0 #0 // Widescreen Mod: Widescreen Mod v2.1

#2 Leomar

Leomar
  • Member
  • 1720 posts

Posted 17 May 2009 - 10:39 PM

I encounter a strange problem when going to De'Arnise Hold.
In fact, the keep is in the same condition as when the quest will be finished.
Well, It seems to me that a small bug (considering I finished the quest before having started it) causes all this strange behavior.

Why have you finished the quest before you started it? Sure the problem depends on that.

Any help allowing me to start "normally" this quest would be greatly appreciated.

There exist a code how you can get the first de'arnise maps back, but unfortunately I don't know it. Perhaps someone else could give you the code. Otherwise reload a save-game before you have finished the quest.

Greetings Leomar
A Megamod does not mean that you can play all of the mods or all of their content,
but you have more choices or paths through the game.
- Chevalier

BiG World Project - Big Baldur's Gate World

#3 -Fouinto-

-Fouinto-
  • Guest

Posted 18 May 2009 - 03:41 AM

Why have you finished the quest before you started it? Sure the problem depends on that.

Well it seems like i'had started the quest, but I never started it !
When I first come to De'Arnise Hold every thing is like i have finished the quest but I have never started it ! In fact, I have only speak to Nalia in the copper cornet, nothing more!

There exist a code how you can get the first de'arnise maps back, but unfortunately I don't know it. Perhaps someone else could give you the code. Otherwise reload a save-game before you have finished the quest.

Whatever the save-game I take, I have the same problem.

Is there a global variable that I can check (and change) in order to "reset" the quest ?

Thank you for your help

#4 -Fouinto-

-Fouinto-
  • Guest

Posted 18 May 2009 - 12:27 PM

Hi again,

I finally found someone having the same problem here
The solution is CLUAConsole:MoveToArea("AR1300") and it works :) I guess it can help someone else.

However, when I look to the list of mods he has installed, I recognize only "G3 Tweaks" that I've installed too. But, on 11th Apr '06, it can't be the same version as me.

Moreover, if it suffices to force to move to the specific Area to correct this bug, I wonder if the problem may be in the woldmap mod (BP_BGT_Worldmap_v7_1) ?
It would be cool if someone could check this (I don't know how to do this).

Thanks

#5 erebusant

erebusant

    It takes a village...

  • Modder
  • 2109 posts

Posted 19 May 2009 - 05:30 AM

Hi again,

I finally found someone having the same problem here
The solution is CLUAConsole:MoveToArea("AR1300") and it works :) I guess it can help someone else.

However, when I look to the list of mods he has installed, I recognize only "G3 Tweaks" that I've installed too. But, on 11th Apr '06, it can't be the same version as me.

Moreover, if it suffices to force to move to the specific Area to correct this bug, I wonder if the problem may be in the woldmap mod (BP_BGT_Worldmap_v7_1) ?
It would be cool if someone could check this (I don't know how to do this).

Thanks

Which Worldmap component are you using? Original or Revised?

It takes a village...

#6 -Fouinto-

-Fouinto-
  • Guest

Posted 19 May 2009 - 11:53 AM

Which Worldmap component are you using? Original or Revised?

I use "Revised" one.

#7 -hugene-

-hugene-
  • Guest

Posted 20 May 2009 - 06:38 PM

Hello,

We have been playing BG2 for a while now, but we seem to have encountered a bug with the game. When we enter the 1st floor inside De'Arnise Hold, all the character control buttons (like for spells and fighting) start flickering very fast and we can not click any of them anymore.

Anyone else seen this bug?

Thanks a lot

#8 -Fouinto-

-Fouinto-
  • Guest

Posted 23 May 2009 - 07:35 AM

We have been playing BG2 for a while now, but we seem to have encountered a bug with the game. When we enter the 1st floor inside De'Arnise Hold, all the character control buttons (like for spells and fighting) start flickering very fast and we can not click any of them anymore.


I have not seen this bug. I have only seen two other "well known" bugs (TorGal is invincible and another troll too).

Sorry.

#9 Leomar

Leomar
  • Member
  • 1720 posts

Posted 28 May 2009 - 01:04 AM

@ hugene

We have been playing BG2 for a while now, but we seem to have encountered a bug with the game. When we enter the 1st floor inside De'Arnise Hold, all the character control buttons (like for spells and fighting) start flickering very fast and we can not click any of them anymore.

Anyone else seen this bug?

Can you post your WeiDU.log?



@ Fouinto

I have not seen this bug. I have only seen two other "well known" bugs (TorGal is invincible and another troll too).

But you have only seen these bugs with your older installations, right? Or happens this in your new installation, too?


Greetings Leomar
A Megamod does not mean that you can play all of the mods or all of their content,
but you have more choices or paths through the game.
- Chevalier

BiG World Project - Big Baldur's Gate World

#10 -Fouinto-

-Fouinto-
  • Guest

Posted 28 May 2009 - 09:16 AM

@ Fouinto

I have not seen this bug. I have only seen two other "well known" bugs (TorGal is invincible and another troll too).

But you have only seen these bugs with your older installations, right? Or happens this in your new installation, too?

Greetings Leomar

In fact, it has happened in my new installation too. Maybe one of the mod I installed was not the last one?

#11 Leomar

Leomar
  • Member
  • 1720 posts

Posted 30 May 2009 - 02:04 AM

@ Fouinto

I have not seen this bug. I have only seen two other "well known" bugs (TorGal is invincible and another troll too).

But you have only seen these bugs with your older installations, right? Or happens this in your new installation, too?

Greetings Leomar

In fact, it has happened in my new installation too. Maybe one of the mod I installed was not the last one?

No, you have done a small installation and all is new and fine.
Normally this bug is solved and it should be fixed with the BP patches.

Can you look into your Setup-BPv177.tp2 if you have the green added line in this block:

WRITE_ASCII 0x250 ~BPPLOT~ #8 // Class (was GENSHT01)
WRITE_ASCII 0x258 ~BPLEADER~ #8 // Race (was NONE)
WRITE_ASCII 0x260 ~GENSHT01~ #8 // General (was NONE)
WRITE_ASCII 0x268 ~BPWTSIGT~ #8 // Default (was WTASIGHT)

You can open the Setup-BPv177.tp2 with a text-editor like notepad and search after one of the lines.

Greetings Leomar

Edited by Leomar, 30 May 2009 - 02:06 AM.

A Megamod does not mean that you can play all of the mods or all of their content,
but you have more choices or paths through the game.
- Chevalier

BiG World Project - Big Baldur's Gate World

#12 -Fouinto-

-Fouinto-
  • Guest

Posted 30 May 2009 - 04:21 AM

Normally this bug is solved and it should be fixed with the BP patches.
Can you look into your Setup-BPv177.tp2 if you have the green added line in this block:

WRITE_ASCII 0x250 ~BPPLOT~ #8 // Class (was GENSHT01)
WRITE_ASCII 0x258 ~BPLEADER~ #8 // Race (was NONE)
WRITE_ASCII 0x260 ~GENSHT01~ #8 // General (was NONE)
WRITE_ASCII 0x268 ~BPWTSIGT~ #8 // Default (was WTASIGHT)

I found these 4 lines in my Setup-BPv177.tp2

I don't know if it's important, but I have also installed "BPv177-TOBfix".
Back to Mega Mod Help


  1. Spellhold Studios
  2. → Modding
  3. → Mega Modifications
  4. → Mega Mod Help
  5. Guidelines