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[berelinde]

You won't have to change anything in Neh'taniel, I don't think. The problem is with the Viconia Friendship.

If you know how to use the console, open it up and type in the following. I don't know if you'll be able to have the friendship in ToB, but it will end the stutter.

CLUAConsole:SetGlobal("I#ViconiaToBTalks","GLOBAL",1)

Then hit enter. If she's in an active stutter at the time, you might have to do this a couple of times, or pause the game, but it should work.

You should also post a link to this topic in the Viconia Friendship bug reports thread here.

Edited by berelinde, 08 March 2010 - 05:14 PM.

[Calliea]

Worked like a charm, Berelinde! She's all fixed Well, *hopefully*. I mean, if other talks will trigger?

Although, since I've found the thing with Neh'taniel and Sarevok, I wonder still what causes is/how to fix it (after all, in their case, Viconia isn't present in the party) Especially since I'd like to see their banters... I only took Sarevok in for the talks anyway. Either he talks or he gets his butt righteously kicked.

Edited by Calliea, 08 March 2010 - 05:22 PM.

[Himself]

Is it ok for a party NPC script to dictate ActionOverride(Player1, ? (none of mine have this as far as I checked)

ActionOverride(Player1,DisplayString(Myself,184952))

TO

ActionOverride(DisplayString(Myself,184952))

Ah well, probably I should just sleep, things can't be that simple ^^

[berelinde]

@Calliea: I don't know if you'll still get the friendship talks. But if her stutter was making the game unplayable, you wouldn't get them, anyway. The best place to find out about that is her forum, in the link I provided.

@himself: Why wouldn't it be alright to do a DSH over the head of the PC? It isn't like you're forcing the PC to change his gender or anything. All you're doing is making floaty text appear over his head for second or two. And I'm sure that there are a lot more mods that use ActionOverride(Player1,Action()) than you think. I'm using it myself in an area script to start an internal dialogue. "(You find a ring, a plain silver band set with a glowing purple stone. etc)"

Oh, sorry, misunderstood your question. You always use an object with ActionOverride(). A plain DSH() probably would have worked, but it isn't catastrophic to do it this way.

Edited by berelinde, 08 March 2010 - 05:55 PM.

[Himself]

odd that this causes any sort of stutter, but since she traced the root to these blocks..

I know that global and area scripts can ActionOverride any object, still dunno about local NPC script trying to ActionOverride a creature other than him/herself whos actually running the script, barely remember this to not work, but then.. been ages since I tried that (IF I ever did, that is).

[berelinde]

It wasn't the DSH() or the ActionOverride() that was causing the stutter, it was forgetting to advance the check variable. It's probably the single most common cause of stutter, and it's also why that debugging script worked so well.

[Jarno Mikkola]

Is it ok for a party NPC script to dictate

Actually yes, if you wish to check what the %&/¤# it is doing with it's time, as the feature comes from the LStest mod I created... See it's a debug tool! Nothing more...

It will display this:

Running block 43 of SK#NEH25.BCS

In the dialog box... from which you'll do the debugging. Yeah, it will dug the install eventually, but it can always be uninstalled without harm...

[Hoppy]

Weeee... glad everyone has an understanding of what the hell LStest did and didn't do.

@Jarno

Can you update your bugfixing guide and add some tutorials about what the scripts say originally and what LStest adds in game to make more sense?

[Jarno Mikkola]

Can you update your bugfixing guide and add some tutorials about what the scripts say originally and what LStest adds in game to make more sense?

Bugfixing guide? FAQ for the Megamods.
Actually it should be quite obvious by looking at the tutorial that was linked in the FAQ... but I'll do that just in case. Adding point #12 to the FAQ.

[Calliea]

Weird. I think I've managed to trigger that talk of Neh'taniels by setting the SK#SarevokTalk global to 1 in-game.

But.

IF
        InParty(Myself)
        InParty("Sarevok")
        Global("SK#NehtRomanceActive","GLOBAL",2)
        RealGlobalTimerExpired("N#LoveTalkTimeTOB","GLOBAL")
        Global("SK#SecondTalk","GLOBAL",2)
        Global("SK#SarevokTalk","GLOBAL",0)
        !StateCheck(Player1,CD_STATE_NOTVALID)
        !StateCheck(Myself,CD_STATE_NOTVALID)
THEN
        RESPONSE #100
                ActionOverride(Player1,DisplayString(Myself,184952)) // Running block 43 of SK#NEH25.BCS
                SetGlobal("SarevokTalk","GLOBAL",1)
END

That's the block I've had in my .bcs and I've noticed that in the very last verse there seems to be no SK# prefix. I added it and the talk triggered on game-load. Did I do something moronic or did I fix this thing cause I actually am not sure what I'm doing so

[Hoppy]

Weird. I think I've managed to trigger that talk of Neh'taniels by setting the SK#SarevokTalk global to 1 in-game.

But.

IF
        InParty(Myself)
        InParty("Sarevok")
        Global("SK#NehtRomanceActive","GLOBAL",2)
        RealGlobalTimerExpired("N#LoveTalkTimeTOB","GLOBAL")
        Global("SK#SecondTalk","GLOBAL",2)
        Global("SK#SarevokTalk","GLOBAL",0)
        !StateCheck(Player1,CD_STATE_NOTVALID)
        !StateCheck(Myself,CD_STATE_NOTVALID)
THEN
        RESPONSE #100
                ActionOverride(Player1,DisplayString(Myself,184952)) // Running block 43 of SK#NEH25.BCS
                SetGlobal("SarevokTalk","GLOBAL",1)
END

That's the block I've had in my .bcs and I've noticed that in the very last verse there seems to be no SK# prefix. I added it and the talk triggered on game-load. Did I do something moronic or did I fix this thing cause I actually am not sure what I'm doing so

Sounds like you fixed it as his dialog was ready to start but did not match as his trigger in the dialog is most likely SK#SarevokTalk at the value of one.

[Lollorian]

You should report that to the Neh'thaniel bug thread (unless it's already been fixed - in which case it wouldn't hurt anyway ) They're updating the mod almost everyday now though. Now THAT's cool!!

Edited by Lollorian, 09 March 2010 - 06:47 AM.

[Calliea]

You should report that to the Neh'thaniel bug thread (unless it's already been fixed - in which case it wouldn't hurt anyway ) They're updating the mod almost everyday now though. Now THAT's cool!!

Hah I know, I have them on my watch. And they're adding more content still too! I just didn't want to report something that's not a bug so I wanted to ask here first.

[berelinde]

Go ahead and report it if you found it. Kitanna might be aware of it or she might not. She's had her hands full with RL and hasn't been posting every change she's made, but I know she's been alternating between testing and fixing every chance she gets.

[Kitanna]

Like Berelinde said, if you don't post this on Neht's forum, I will never see it. Unless Berelinde sends me a link like now I am sorry there are still problems with Neht. I am running a stutter debug and fixing things as I find them, I just started TOB so it shouldn't be much longer. RL has been been very hard to handle lately and has cut down my time that I can devote to Neht. I'm working on it though and hope to have an update very soon. Thank you for pointing this out to me as I truly thought I had fixed it already.

[Calliea]

I'd posted it there yesterday, I think. I just always have a different nickname to confuse people and myself