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#1 Nocturne

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 12:54 AM

I have searched, yet found nothing:

 

Whenever an enemy uses Charm Person on my party, they just stand around hostile. I.e. they get charmed, get a red circle 'neath their feat and the "Charmed" status icon, but they don't persue or even attack other party members! This makes Charm Person (And other charms aswell, I suspect!) not much of a threat!

 

I suspect this is ToBEx doing as it seems the most likely. I am not sure however!

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#2 Beleg33

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 02:52 AM

Pretty sure this is a feature from some mod or another. That's what Charm is supposed to do in PnP if I recall correctly... whereas Dire Charm/Domination etc... gives the caster full control over the charmed creature.

Sadly this is not replicable when the player casts Charm on a creature (so I believe).


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#3 Nocturne

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 02:57 AM

Thank you for your reply, Beleg!

 

I have suspected as much myself, but found it really odd that I could charm creatures and they'd be fully controllable - furthemore I don't remember how Charm Person worked in vanilla BG1, it seems unfair that I can utilize this but not opponents... I suppose the more dangerous opponents (Sirens, etc) will use Dire Charm / Domination instead?

 

I will go scrutinize aTweaks, as that is the only real "PnP tweakpack" I've got. Thank you again.



#4 Lollorian

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 04:17 AM

You can check whether ToBEx is behind this by temporarily renaming ToBEx.DLL to something else and playing the game :)

 

If the issue persists, the culprit is something else :P


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#5 Nocturne

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 07:46 AM

You can check whether ToBEx is behind this by temporarily renaming ToBEx.DLL to something else and playing the game :)

 

If the issue persists, the culprit is something else :P

 

That's a very good idea, Lollorian! Sadly, 'Tis hard to replicate the situation as Charm Person fails so often due to the +3 Save Bonus. I can confirm, however, that Dire Charm works as it used to - ran into an Ogre-Mage in the mountains who charmed both Branwen and Shar-Teel...who proceeded to destroy the rest of the party! I was able to Charm Person a Gnoll or two to keep them busy with that, but Viconia died in the end...

 

When 'Tis only Charm Person that works like this, I feel 'Tis not that big of deal. I was worrying Mental Dominiation and Dire Charm had similar behavior, however, which they don't. I will try your advice the next time I run into a Charm Person-caster. :)