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[T.G.Maestro]

This has been dicussed before with Lucy, but I would like to hear some technical details before doing any alterations.
Does Chloe's YRKENSAI kit use the original Fighter HLA pool (LUFI0.2DA)? If yes, then we have to change it to the new reference of the new Kensai HLA table, but this requires further planning.
Either we can include the said table into the next version of Chloe, or one must install Refinements on top of this mod to get the (new) HLAs.

[Lucythebeast]

I hope someone else knows the answer to that question... I don't even know what an HLA table is... teehee.

[T.G.Maestro]

I guess the one that coded Chloe's kit would be the right person .
Still, we don't need to rush this yet, since it mostly affects the ToB part of the mod, which isn't finished yet.

To make it a bit more clear Lucy: HLAs are High Level Abilities, those innates/spells that characters gain after a certain amount of XP (around 2.700.000 I guess), mostly in ToB. The HLA table is the repertoire of abilities/spells you choose from.

[Jolinar]

To make it a bit more clear Lucy: HLAs are High Level Abilities, those innates/spells that characters gain after a certain amount of XP (around 2.700.000 I guess), mostly in ToB. The HLA table is the repertoire of abilities/spells you choose from.

It's always the first level up after 2.950.000 XP
As for Chloe, all I can tell you is that she uses exactly the same HLAs as a "normal" Kensai, so I guess they both use LUFI0.2DA.

[T.G.Maestro]

Thanks Jolinar, that sould clear things up.
This means that we have two options to make this thing work properly:

1.: somehow we will have to include the modified kensai table into the Chloe mod with all of its files and references. We should add the modified States/States2 bams too for the new Special Effect icons to appear.

2.: simply change the YRKENSAI kit's HLA table reference from LUFI1.2DA to LUFI4.2DA. This method would require the installation of the Refinements mod however, on top of the actual Chloe installation. Without Refinements Chloe wouldn't get any HLAs at all this way.

[Littiz]

My take:
I'd give to Lucy our LUFI4.2DA (not sure Kensai is FI4 right now, might be something else), and the needed spells. Choe should point to that table.

The portrait icon for True Kai should appear if Refinements is ALSO installed.
I think it'd be fair, it'd be the easiest thing to do, and no installation ordering issues should arise

[T.G.Maestro]

My take:
I'd give to Lucy our LUFI4.2DA (not sure Kensai is FI4 right now, might be something else), and the needed spells. Choe should point to that table.

Well, that is point 1. then from my "list"

The portrait icon for True Kai should appear if Refinements is ALSO installed

And if we include our modified states bams too? Since I don't really know of ANY other mod that would add special effect icons, I think it wouldn't cause problems. This way those icons would appear even if Refinements wasn't installed (which wouldn'd be a wise move, but still ).

[T.G.Maestro]

My take:
I'd give to Lucy our LUFI4.2DA (not sure Kensai is FI4 right now, might be something else), and the needed spells. Choe should point to that table.

After further consideration, this would be my preferred choice. Any spcial effect icons (for True Kai and Hardiness) would only appear if Refinements is installed as well.

[T.G.Maestro]

What is the estimated release dtae of the next Chloe patch? I'd like to know because I'd like to add our table to her for the next version.

[Littiz]

A most kind remark @Cybersquirt (eh, what would you expect)

You are missing the point, though. Chloe comes with a new kit, she's not a regular Kensai, so unless we *actively* work for compatibility, our two mods would look as "strangers" when used together.
About Refinements, your loss if you don't use it, I'm pretty fond of the results and of the comments received by testers.

Yet of course, if Lucy isn't interested, we'll retire our offer.
The new portrait icon would need to remain as a Refinements-only feature in any case, since it's tied with all the other components, including the new HLAs, the new Kit and the Bugfix for Spell Shield, so it is... say, hard-coded in our mod.

[Lucythebeast]

I have no idea when the next patch will come out. I was waiting for the German translation to be completed (as it looks like it'll still be a while before the French and Spanish translations are ready) so perhaps I'll need to start bugging Ms. Watermeade about it again. The last time I asked she said she was fine-tuning the translation. (She's a bit of a perfectionist. hehe)